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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 01:34 AM
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Steven Seagal never made a bad movie.
Discuss.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 01:36 AM
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1. My dear LostInAnomie!
Heh.

WRONG.

:P
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 01:42 AM
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2. As someone who was initially a big fan
I have to :rofl: at this.

"Above the Law" was about extra-legal CIA ops... Good subject.

"Hard to Kill" was about corrupt cops. Old news, but okay.

"Marked for Death" was lame... Jamaican Voodoo Posses? I prefer the ones in Predator II.

"Out for Justice" just sucked.

"Under Siege" was mildly amusing (primarily because of Tommy Lee Jones).

"Fire Down Below" was ecological in origin and worth it for that alone.


I think for an action star, Seagal has done some decent stuff. At least he's not an asshat. I THINK he's a Buddhist in real life and I can respect that. But once he started hiring stunt-doubles to do things he could never do (like jumping kicks, for example) he definitely jumped the shark.

And, yes, I can offer an opinion on just about any martial arts star known to American cinema and his or her movies, choreography, skill level, and overall value as an icon.

I just got finished a couple of days ago explaining to my sons what kind of raging dumbass Chuck Norris is--and that's not even getting into the epic fail of choreography of STARTING a fight with a spinning back kick.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 09:32 AM
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12. Fire down below had that terrible line
If I remember correctly it went:

"I am your worse nightmare- A EPA agent with a gun"
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 01:24 PM
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19. I kinda like that line. But I do everything in my power to avoid Seagal movies.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 11:22 AM
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15. You and my hubby need to talk. He's got a couple hundred martial arts movies, many you
Edited on Mon Jul-27-09 12:19 PM by GreenPartyVoter
can only get overseas. I think he kept Hong Kong in the black for a while there. LOL (Or at least Ebay.)

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 12:42 PM
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16. Yeah, I know something about the Hong Kong cinema, but I found it easier
to keep track of the low-rent martial artist movies coming out of America... And the "artists."
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:23 AM
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3. Has he ever made a great movie??
Not just okay, but GREAT??

Help me out here....
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 09:22 AM
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8. Which one was the submarine one?
That one was great.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:53 AM
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4. With a lot of acting lessons and/or directorial training...
...Seagal could become merely bad.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:19 AM
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5. Now the real question is
who's better - Rolph Lundgren or Stephen Segal?

Or wait, there are a few others - Charles Bronson! Or hmmm....Chuck Norris. Oh well, Norris is a crazy RW douche. So he sucks....

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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 11:18 AM
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13. And Bronson's dead.
Has been for a number of years now, and he still could out-act Steven Segal.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 01:26 PM
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20. I have always loved Charles Bronson.
Even when he was Charles Buchinski and played a prize fighter in "Pat and Mike."
Yes, he was a supporting player in a Hepburn/Tracy movie. Ask me anything about old movies. Go ahead.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 01:49 PM
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21. So is Jill Ireland...of breast cancer years before him...
...sad ending to their love story.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:24 AM
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6. Never bad - usually a few notches worse than that!
:P
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 09:19 AM
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7. Under Seige 2 wasnt bad.
It wasnt good either.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 09:24 AM
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9. we are in agreeance
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 09:09 PM
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23. Damn right.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 09:26 AM
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10. He was Great in EXECUTIVE DECISION nt
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 11:19 AM
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14. Best part of the movie...
Is when Segal's character plunges 35,000 feet to his doom.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 09:29 AM
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11. In the sense that, if we evaluate his entire oeuvre there are none that are lower than the others,
then yes, he technically never made a "bad" movie... he's pretty consistent.

:P

Actually, I like his movies - he's a particularly cool kind of bad ass with his bone breaking moves and stoic look. But he does have a couple clunkers - the one on the ship with Tommy Lee Jones is a bit of a stinker, though Jones manages to hold it together with his brilliance.

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Eyerish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 12:44 PM
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17. I was hoping I'd get a chance to use this...
:rofl:
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 01:16 PM
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18. Correct, the technically didn't make those bad movies, he just starred in them...n/t
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 02:12 PM
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22. And acid never provided anyone with a bad trip.
:P
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 09:10 PM
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24. You are absolutely, 100% correct.
All his movies are horrible, not merely "bad". :P
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 09:12 PM
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25. You're right.
But he made plenty of terrible ones.
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 11:11 PM
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26. I like guy flicks, so I tend to agree... nt.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 11:41 PM
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27. Nor a good one. n/t
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