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FunBobbyMucha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 02:58 PM
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What movie scene scarred you for life?
Let me set the stage: 11, 12 year-old FunBobby sits up late one night, awaiting the latest Burt Reynolds action movie on HBO. He is naive and living in Appalachia, but the BR action movie is a staple of his culture--you got yer Smokey/Bandit, yer Hooper, yer Gator. He watches with interest, confusion, then outright horror as two rednecks, similar to the rednecks that surround his day-to-day life, butt-rape Ned Beatty. He is motionless, nauseous, and the world changes for him that very day.

I still can't watch that movie.
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AJ BENDER Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:01 PM
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1. Linda Blair's Exorcist Character !
I was 11 & that scared the shit out of me for days !
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:02 PM
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2. Well nothing that traumatic...but Wizard of Oz
The scene where Dorothy is trapped in the witches castle, and she sees Auntie Em in the giant crystal ball, and she is yelling "Auntie Em, Auntie Em." And then the image of Auntie Em morphs into the wicked witch. OMG...that scared the poop out of me...
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:04 PM
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6. Those flying monkeys still scare me.
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scarlet_owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:58 PM
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65. Another Wizard of Oz trauma here.
Except mine was where the Wicked Witch of the West melts. My mother looks A LOT like Margaret Hamilton. Worse yet, my mom always dressed up like the Witch for Halloween. Needless to say, we'd grown quite fond of the W.W.O.T.W, and my sister and I would scream and cry when she died. I still can't watch that scene.

*Interesting side-note: My mother ran into Margaret Hamilton in St. Louis when she was young. Miss Hamilton took one look at her and said "Honey, in ten years you'll look just like me." She was right.
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CRK7376 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:41 AM
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135. I've hated those damn flying monkeys with a
passion since I first saw that damn movie in the 60s...Still haven't watched that damn movie all the way through. My wife and kids laugh at me too...But I hate the Wizard of Oz...almost as much as I hate that Damn song...Somewhere over the Rainbow.....
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MidwestMomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 11:38 PM
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103. That scared me too
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 11:41 PM by MidwestMomma
Also in the beginning when she's in the tornado and she looks out the window and first she sees the mean old lady on the bike and then the old lady turns into the wicked witch. Scary!
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:02 PM
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3. I Have One, Although It Is Not A Particular "Scene"..
Really, just a particular character. It is the clown creature in the movie version of "It." I have NEVER been able to see the movie in its entirety. Let's just say, there was a part where the clown creature was all fang-y and evil. I get goosebumps just thinking about it. OK, now I am hinking about that creature and I am getting chills and goosebumps. Must go outside. Surround myself with humans. Bye bye.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:03 PM
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4. The stabbing scene in...
..Brian DePalma's "Sisters". I was 10 years old. It must have done for me what the shower scene in "Psycho" did for my parents.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:03 PM
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5. the tornadoes from "The Wizard of Oz"
saw that movie when I was a very wee lad, then we lived in Oklahoma where we had tornado warnings all the time.

For years I had nightmares about tornadoes until I finally saw two of them, on the ground at the same time, in Colorado.

For some reason, haven't had one since.

Man, anybody under the age of 25 shouldn't watch "Deliverance". :)
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:04 PM
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7. The ending scene of Apocalypse Now. Napalm everywhere...
... incredible destruction.

My first real lesson in how horrible and impersonal war can be. I came out of the theater a shell-shocked, less naive, 18-yr-old.
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:18 PM
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35. "Apocalypse" hit me hard, too...
I saw it with my best friend when it came out. We were 16. The film didn't scare me---I was too old to be "frightened," in the childhood sense. But it stunned the both of us. I remember we left the theater in silence, got in my buddy's car, and just drove around aimlessly for an hour, saying almost nothing. What a powerful evocation of the horrors and absurdities of war. This was 1979, remember, and seven years earlier, when I was 9, and Vietnam was still happening, I had already started to worry about being drafted to go fight a war I saw every night via Walter Cronkite, and which seemd to me to be a war that would NEVER end. It seemed to me like it had been going on FOREVER. And in terms of my own life, it had been. In '79, when "Apocalypse" came out, Vietnam was still so fresh in our minds. I've watched the film at least 25 times since then. It's probably my favorite of all time. But it'll never again have that shocking impact it did that first time.
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m-jean03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:34 PM
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52. "We were Soldiers" affected me in a similar way
The first Viet Nam war movie I saw. Never interested in war movies before that. But it was the only movie playing in my small town theatre at the time. Powerful, made me less naive for sure. First time I realized how war is, really truly hell; I felt like an alien or angel watching humans from the "heaven" of my sheltered life, thinking, how can they so easily turn paradise into hell? An alternate dimension -- hell on earth.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:04 PM
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8. Not sure if it was a movie
or a television show but it was a horror one where this tiny little gremlin creature had a knife and would jump out from under things and stab people.

Wish I could be more clear than that. Can anybody help me out here?
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adamblast Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:06 PM
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10. [deleted]
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 03:09 PM by adamblast
Replied to wrong message. Oops.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:07 PM
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11. "Trilogy of Terror"??
With Karen Black being chased around her apartment by a Zuni fetish doll that had come to life. That sounds like what you're describing.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:10 PM
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18. I remember that
then she chucks it in the oven or microwave at the end. And didn't she become possessed at the end? Or was in that in a sequel?
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FunBobbyMucha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:12 PM
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22. She is possessed at the end, though
years later they made a sequel with Lysette Anthony that had someone else coming in and being possessed.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:15 PM
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30. Yeah...
...the spirit in the doll survived and possessed her. It ends with her squatting near her apartment door with a knife, waiting for her mother to come over. You know what? I'm really in the mood to see it now.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:13 PM
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23. Yeah!
That's the one. I don't know why, but it scared the bejeezus out of me.

Did this creep anyone else out?

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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:17 PM
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31. I saw it when I was a kid...
...and that is ALL the kids were talking about in school the next day.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:17 PM
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33. I found it funny
I saw it when I was pretty young, but for some reason it didn't scare me. My brother and I kept running around imitating that doll
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adamblast Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:14 PM
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26. Speaking of little dolls...
I remember being really terrified by the "biting dolls" that attacked Jane Fonda in Barbarella...

That, and having a massive crush on the hot blind angel guy... :D
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 05:03 PM
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77. This guy?
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:21 AM
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119. Scared the sh*t out of me
I remember that from years ago. Couldn't sleep that night. Would love to see that again now, not being 14 and scared like before.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:12 PM
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21. I remember a TV movie with Karen Black
Fighting a small knife-wielding voodoo doll whose soul was released when its neck chain fell off. She thought she'd burned it in a microwave, but it didn't work. what scarred me for life? The beginning of The Naked Runner.

:headbang:
rocknation

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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:12 AM
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117. OOOOO I remember that one......
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 02:26 AM by jus_the_facts
....my grandmother was furious with my parents for lettin' me watch that as I was scared shitless...had nightmares about it for a loooong time too!! :scared:


here it is..I was 7yrs old...1975 Trilogy of TERROR...*hack hack hack*...he's cuttin' himself outta the SUITCASE!!! :evilgrin:
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:38 PM
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54. You could also be referring to
Stephen King's "Cat's Eye" with the separate three mini-films, in which the "cat" starred in all three segments. The first was with James Woods and Alan King, about a company that used rather drastic measures to keep people from smoking; the second segment was with Robert Hays walking around the outside ledge of a skyscraper, because he had had an affair with this mobster's wife; and the third segment with Drew Barrymore, where the cat ended up defending her against the minute little gremlin-like creature that was trying to smother her.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:21 PM
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69. trilogy of terror..
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:30 AM
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121. SHIT...where's the damn CHAIN....put it back ON....HURRY Uuuuup!!!
...that little mofo was SCARY when 7yrs old...now it's total cheese!! :D

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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:52 AM
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142. I remember that too-just don't know the name of the show
I would look under my bed for years after seeing that!
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:05 PM
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9. The eyeball slicng scene in "La Chien Andelou"
Yikes, that was disturbing.
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:07 PM
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12. I just saw that in Film class last semester
I don't know that it scarred me for life, but it is indeed disturbing. Especially considering the time it was made.
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a_random_joel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:08 PM
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13. Darth Vader slaying Obi Wan
I was 6 years old for cryin' out loud!
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:08 PM
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14. Some thing called Isle of Death or some such thing.
They put a women in a coffin and she was alive. It must have been a 30's film but I sure recall that. I was very young.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:08 PM
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15. Poltergeist (The Clown Scene)
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 03:10 PM by Cush
I saw it when I was like 5 or 6. Remember that scene where the clown pulls the kid under the bed? At the time my bed was next to wall, so for years I slept as close to the wall as I could (while remaining comfortable). I would not go near the edge of bed. Friggin Clown!
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:09 PM
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16. The Flying Monkeys in The Wizard of Oz
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:17 PM
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32. My wife thought they were real monkeys
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:32 PM
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99. Me Too!
I had to run out of the room for those buggers.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:09 PM
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17. Last scene of "Dementia 13" where an axe is put through a doll's head
when I was 5 years old during a Halloween matinee. I thought it was a real girl, not a doll. I had to wait 25+ years to find out I was wrong.
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adamblast Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:11 PM
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19. 13 yrs old. Texas Chainsaw (original). Meathook.
...I really wasn't ready for that.

The low-budget pseudo-documentary feel made it way too realistic for me to handle. Really freaked me out. Still does.
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 05:20 PM
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79. O geez, that was a wicked scene! I was 17 and it freaked me!
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:02 AM
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116. good pick
that's a movie I'll never watch again; the whole thing was unsettling.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:12 PM
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20. A special screening of Halloween, the first and great one
A comedy was the regular feature but Halloween was a special screening at 4Pm I think. I was sitting next to a woman who didn't know Halloween was going to be shown at that time slot. She was there for the comedy. She asked me what was the movie they were showing. I told her a screening of some type of horror movie. She told me she didn't like that type of movie but would stay anyway. I thought she was going to die. It was almost better than the movie. She then refused to go out for coffee after the movie.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:15 PM
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29. but if you need a scene..the ending of Carrie...I jumped a mile
:bounce:
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:19 AM
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118. That's mine too
As I type this the scene of the hand coming out of the grave is CREEEEEPIN' me out.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:13 PM
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24. American History X
there was this scene with this guy and a sidewalk curb, ack. Now my jaw hurts, can't think about it anymore!
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2bfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:54 PM
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63. Thanks a bunch!
I thought I had that scene erased from my memory but now I will be having nightmares again. That was just horrible........
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:35 PM
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72. Sorry
It was the first thing that came to my mind. At least now I am not alone in my misery. It will take days to get it out of my head again. :(
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:13 PM
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25. The opening scene of Jaws
Where the girl gets chomped.

I would never swim at night in a large body of water.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:32 PM
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49. that's mine
I still have trouble with being in the ocean.

I take that back: I don't have any trouble, because I simply don't go in the ocean.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:14 PM
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27. The Chimpmunks Movie
The scene where Dave Seville threw Alvin into a metal box outside on a very hot day to punish him for some mischief he had gotten into. Simon and Theodore then taunted him by sitting on lawn chairs sipping lemonade just a few feet from the box.

TlalocW
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MiddleRiverRefugee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:14 PM
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28. In "The Fisher King"
..where you found out just how Robin Willams' character got to be as he was. At the time the idea of being out on a date one minute and having someone blow it all away the next was just kinda..unfair.

Yeah, unfair..kind of like I feel sometimes now, down here at Ground 0.5....
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:18 PM
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34. Night of the LIving Dead
I was 13 and didn't sleep for weeks. I still hate horror flicks and won't let my son see them
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:22 AM
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137. I still can't watch that movie all the way through.
I can see a zombie movie all the way through once, but after that I get too scared and have to turn it off.

I saw this for the first time a few years after my dad died, so I have the same recurring nightmare of him being one of them and taking a chomp out of my neck. Then I wake up screaming.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:19 PM
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36. If you have seen "They Came from Within" you'll know
Cronenberg's made some creepy movies
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:20 PM
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37. The whipping scenes in "ROOTS"....not from the scenes themselves.....
...but the way my own Dad acted all giddy and said to me that's the way he wished it could still be....I knew from then on everything I'd heard in jest about black people was WRONG and I vowed to NEVER be a racist....years later when I was old enough to vote...my ol' man told me "...you need to register 'cos David Duke needs your vote!" I looked him dead in his eyes and said..."....okay...I'm gonna go register...and I'm gonna pull the leaver OFF for Edwin Edwards to NEGATE YOUR VOTE!" :grr:

The HORROR of REALITY is much more scary to me!! :evilfrown:
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:01 AM
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125. by this I meant that the scar I got was from discovering my Dad....
....was far from bein' perfect at a really young age....and the scars affect me still as he's now a fundie and STILL thinks this way...eventhough I love him regardless...it still affects our relationship from bein' what it should be. :cry:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:21 PM
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38. Hannibal Lechter opening up Ray Liota's skull
and slicing off a part of his brain, frying it and feeding it back to him. Over the top. I can never look at ray Liota again.
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:45 PM
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56. You'll be happy to know that Ray Liotta is fine...
I saw him a couple weeks ago in NY. They sutured his skull-cap back on with these amazing new biodegradable staples they have. In and out of the hospital in a week. Sure, he's a little slow in responding, and his short-term memory has been compromised. But his color's good! Looks healthy as a horse. I say Ray takes the friggin' cake for going all out for a role. He didn't have to have his brains actually eaten. They could've done it with prosthetics. But Ray insisted. He's real Method, and all.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:22 PM
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39. Nicky's demise in Casino
Something about watching my brother being beaten to death, poorly, on top of that knowing I'm next and then being buried half-alive just affects me on some primal sense.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:49 PM
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59. that was a true story
the real guy's name was Nicky Spillatro. He used to brag about sticking ice picks in people's ears and killing them.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:24 PM
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40. The Hitchhiker
The girl is ripped in two. The hero fails to save her. This is WRONG.

No, the finger-in-the-fries scene didn't faze me in the least.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:25 PM
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41. No that was great! We need movies where heroes fail
Because it happens all the damn time in real life
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:29 PM
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45. I can think of 3 scenes (other than all the "Exorcist" possession scenes)
1. When the guy's head goes flying end over end in "The Omen"

2. The scene at the end of "Carrie" when her bloody hand comes up
out of the grave in Sue's dream (someone already mentioned this)

3. When robot boy/something similar throws a basketball at female
friend's face and completely smashes in said face in "Deadly
Friend"
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:07 AM
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134. Correct title...
"The Hitcher"... Rutger Hauer did a magnificent job as the psycho killer. I recorded that movie about ten years ago off HBO. That girl is a very young Jennifer Jason Leigh.
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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:27 PM
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42. "On the Beach" -- the whole movie
I was about 10 or so when it came out and the threat of nuclear destruction was a very real, if not clearly defined, image in my mind. The idea of all those people slowly, invevitably dying from the radiation completely messed me up. I still can't watch that film.
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m-jean03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:28 PM
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43. Nurse Betty -- The scalping scene.
Enough said. Totally unnecessary. Very hard to go to sleep that night. Blachhh.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:29 PM
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44. The last scene in Looking For Mr. Goodbar
After that, picking up bar trash just wasn't fun anymore.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:30 PM
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46. Deliverance rape scene AND
Pulp Fiction rape scene.
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Fitzovich Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:31 PM
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47. The Day The Earth Stood Still
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:08 PM
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66. Hah! This is mine too. I think I was about 5 years old watching this one
night with my dad and it just scared the bejeeezus outta me. Even today I am very fond of that movie.

Also, when was a kid, every saturday night around midnight, they would show the old horror movies like Frankenstein, Wolfman, the Mummy, etc. The first time I was allowed to stay up and watch it with my older sister and her friends, I was scared shitless! I guess I was about 7 then.

As an adult, I admit, the Exorcist scared me so bad I kept looking in the rear view mirror on the way home that night.

Lastly, there's an unknown gem called the "Woman in Black" an english movie that I saw about two years ago. It has no special effects, but it manages to scare the shit out of people.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:31 PM
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48. The opening scene of "Best Little Whorehouse in Texas"
Only because my mother took me so she could see Dolly Parton (she's a big fan) and she had no idea what a Whorehouse was.

:crazy:
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:33 PM
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50. blue velvet...the whole movie!
dennis hopper's character :scared:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:33 PM
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51. Another one: the ending of "Fail Safe"
That has to be the most horrendously evil ending for a nuclear-war movie ever. And the world doesn't even end!
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:36 PM
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53. OK - Laugh now, but when the Grinch who stole Christmas...
...gets stuck when he is going down a Whoville chimney - that freaked out a young kmla. Still does to this day. They not only show it once - but they repeat it again when he goes down another chimney (if I'm not mistaken). Doesn't help that I'm claustrophobic, either.
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 05:49 PM
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83. Hey, I ain't laughing. Same scene freaked me out too!
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:41 PM
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55. "Birds" attacking the house.......
and coming down the chimney. Birds were always hitting our picture windows after getting drunk on fermented pyracantha berries. Scared me senseless for years.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:46 PM
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57. There are so many!!
In the original "Alien" movie, near the end, when the monster comes out from hiding in the getaway pod, and almost gets Riley. Ugh. I can almost feel his breath on me in that moment.

When I was very, very young, there was an episode of One Step Beyond where this little boy had been lost in the woods, and when the humans found him, he said he had been taken care of my a "friend." Well the grown-ups didn't believe him, but by the end of the episode, they realized that it was a Sasquatch that had taken care of the boy. There's a scene in the film where the Sasquatch has left a very real footprint in the mud, and that's when I was forever scarred by the thought of a "real" monster.

The original "Diabolique" (the French version) has some really scary scenes in it as well. I would not sit through that movie again for anything.
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:08 AM
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126. diabolique
the original> I has forgotten it till brought it up. I can't stand stand driving on a dark road alone at night. I keep thinking the trunk will open
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:48 PM
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58. A TV movie I saw as a child
Don't remember the name of it. A young wife and mother in an old house is either going mad or being haunted by the ghost of another young mother from years and years ago. I still have a vision of the ghost coming toward camera, arms outreached, saying in a ghostly tone, "The baby! The baby!"
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:51 PM
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60. Forgot one!
I remember being scared out of my wits by the original "The Blob" as a little girl. I'd look around corners for a hiding blob to catch me!
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montana_hazeleyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:45 AM
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113. The Blob did the same to me!
I wrote nearly the same thing you did on a similar thread some time ago, but for me I was always looking in my closet and under the bed for it before I could go to bed.lol
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:53 PM
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61. a documentary film about the nazi death camps when i was 14
my life has not been the same from the moment i saw the scene where two nazi soldiers held the arms and legs of a naked human being and tossed him into a pit filled with corpses.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:20 AM
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111. Same here.
I think I was about 13, and I remember seeing something very much like what you described in a documentory.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:54 PM
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62. Night of the Living Dead. The WHOLE thing. :P
*scarey*
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:55 PM
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64. Terms of Endearment
That crappy movie, which should be subtitled 'Death in a Cancer Ward' came out just as my husband was starting to feel ill from what did turn out to be cancer.

At age 25.

He's fine now, but every time I even hear the title of that movie I shudder.
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 05:23 PM
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81. I know what you mean...
I saw that a couple of years after my mom had died from cancer. When they showed her in the hospital when she was dying I gasped - she looked just like my mom did and I could almost smell the room again. Freaked me out!
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:12 PM
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67. "The Vikings" -- when Kirk Douglas's eye is blinded by a falcon...
I really loved this movie as a kid, but that scene gave me the willies -- the way it was so convincingly acted, you could really sense the intense pain as Douglas' character wrestles with the bird as its talons are hooking into his eye. And that was a lot of blood back then!
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:28 AM
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138. How about the part in "The Omen" where the lady gets her eyes pecked out?
Eye scenes freak me out.

That one still horrifies me.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:13 PM
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68. Looking for Mr. Goodbar
:puke:


the end of that movie grossed me out..


Platoon was another one I couldn't watch.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 06:08 PM
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85. My apologies. I missed your post. You are right.
Posted that one as well, as you will note. Still in recovery, after nearly a quarter century.
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Butterflies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:26 PM
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70. the scene in JAWS when . . .
they find the remains of the first body on the beach and it's covered with crabs that are eating it. Even though it's 30 years later I still can't touch my feet on the bottom when I'm in the ocean because I think crabs will bite my feet. I wear canvas sneakers or I tread water. It's still scarey because I suspect that crabs can swim . . . :o
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Jesus H. Christ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:33 PM
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71. Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 04:35 PM by Nakedmonkey
When the aliens are trying to get inside the house and take the kid. His mom's trying to stop them and the little boy is trying to let them in.

One of Speilbergs best scenes.

Also Robocop. When they blow off the guys hand with a shot gun and then keep shooting him.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:37 PM
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73. Godzilla vs. The Smog Monster
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 04:46 PM by ronnykmarshall


The horror!!


"I'll show ya a pair of Golden Globes!"
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Fight_n_back Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:39 PM
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74. Trainspotting
the dead baby....eeewww. Took me months to get that picture out of my head.
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cath Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:56 PM
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75. Scared so much they had to take me home
I was 8 and my Mom left me with the neighbor and his 12 year old son. They took me to a double feature matinee. I don't remember the name of the movie and hope someone here can enlighten me. There was a scene where a person (man?) was handed a pair of binoculars. He went over to the window and as he adjusted them these big spikes ejected into his eyes. He started screaming in agony. It was around 1960 and in black and white. I thought Vincent Price was in it but I've not been able to find it. Any help out there?
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ZenLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 05:00 PM
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76. Tommy really creeped me out
Especially the scene where he pulls off his mother's (?) fingernails. :scared: Tina Turner was creepy too.
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Mrs. Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 05:04 PM
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78. "A Clockwork Orange"
The whole damn movie.

"Full Metal Jacket" when the recruit blows his brains out.

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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 05:22 PM
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80. In 4th grade
we were asked to sell these ridiculous plastic things for the PTA. As a reward, all the kids who sold at least one got to see a movie. Some idiot picked a flick called "Lets Scare Jessica to Death". I still have nightmares.
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 05:26 PM
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82. Does anyone remember this old thriller?
When I was VERY young probably 3 or 4 I remember going to the drive-in with my mom and her sister. We always wore our jammies and fell asleep early. I remember seeing part of one of the movies where an old woman was in a wheelchair in a scary house and a young woman comes to the house looking for someone. The old woman's wheel chair starts down the stairs on one of those wheel chair elevators and it stops half way down and her comes off and rolls down the stairs and lands at this young woman's feet and the screaming commences.

I'll never forget that scene, but I don't know what the movie was.
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Doc_Technical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 12:41 AM
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105. I think this movie was called ...
... "Homicidal"
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 06:07 PM
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84. Good choice, but haveta go with "Looking For Mr. Goodbar"
Diane Keaton gets it (in the tub as I recall; saw it about 1980 when it came out, and won't watch it again).
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 06:19 PM
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86. Any documentary that depicts animals in distress...
I'm a real callous bastard when it comes to recreations of human suffering (because they are merely recreations), but there is a lot of wildlife footage that I just can't watch. Is that weird?
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bubblesby2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 11:43 PM
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104. I know exactly what you mean
The first time I saw Old Yeller on the Walt Disney show it scarred me for life. I can't bear to see a movie where any animal is in distress and if they kill the dog, or any other animal in the movie, I don't care to watch anymore unless I know that the bad guy will get his badly.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 06:22 PM
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87. Introduction to Patton
n/t
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 06:25 PM
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88. Jaws:
The very 1st scene where she's swimming at night, and is attacked. I used to love going to FL and swimming in the ocean at night, but can't even think about doing it now... :scared:
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 06:35 PM
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89. American werewolf in London
I was very young when I saw it (maybe 5 or 6) but I still remember to this day the scene where the first guy who got killed by the wolf came back as a ghost to tell his injured friend that he would become a werewolf. While talking, he ate some of his friends potatoes. For some reason I cannot forget that scene.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:24 PM
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90. The Tongue removal scene in Mark of the Devil
http://www.kinocite.co.uk/15/1517.php

Free vomit bags with every ticket. WOuld probably make a good double feature with the Passion.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:59 AM
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144. That whole movie creeped me out
there was another scene where a guy is strung up by his wrists and they put him in these big spiked pincers and closed them around his waist, basically gutting him and letting him die slowly writhing in agony...:scared:
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:35 PM
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91. "Night Gallery"
OK, not a movie, but anybody remember the "Night Gallery" series?

One episode was about an "earwig" that entered victims' heads via the ear canal, then ate their brains out.

Fell asleep with my hands over my ears for a decade after seeing that.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:05 PM
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92. Goldfinger
That one character, was it "Odd Job?" or was that a different one. He throws a hat and slices the head off a statue. For some reason I've been stuck with it ever since. My parents sent me to bed right after I saw it, and I had a horrible nightmare. When I woke up a naked doll sticking out from under my bed became . . . you guessed it . . . A GOLDEN HAND!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

http://www.wgoeshome.com
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:07 PM
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93. Any scene with Pinhead in Hellraiser.
Brrrrrr....
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:13 PM
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94. The chest-ripping scene from Alien
Saw it at 14, ALONE. D'OH! Nightmares for a year and a half...
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marigold20 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:13 PM
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95. Original Invasion of the Body Snatchers
Our hero leaves the woman alone for a moment, comes back, and she's become a pod person. The whole movie just scared me to death.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:20 PM
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96. The end of "Chinatown."
There was nothing quite so chilling.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:32 AM
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123. I think Robert Towne (the screenwriter) agrees with you...
That wasn't the way the script ended. Roman Polanski (whose wife was murdered by the Mansons) changed the ending during production because, as he put it "Beautiful blondes get murdered in Los Angeles." As far as I know, Towne never forgave Polanski for changing what he regarded as his finest screenplay. (Julia Phillips, who produced The Sting, Taxi Driver, and Close Encounters, read the script and agreed with Towne that Polanski's ending weakened the movie.)

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Mr. Socko Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:22 PM
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97. Anything by Jim Carrey.
He sucks. I will never be able to watch "Liar Liar" ever again.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:26 PM
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98. Pi- especially the scene where the main character drills into his head
*shudder*
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:49 PM
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100. This really weird horror film I saw on "Jeepers Creepers" when I
was a kid. It takes place on this island, and I think the premise was that the waters around the island were acidic. So these women were swimming in the waters and their clothes were burned off, but they got out okay. Then the villain gives some of the undiluted water to another character and he burns from the inside out. The last shot of that poor character shows him on a raft, drifting out to sea, pale white, screaming, and gushing blood out of his stomach. Anyone know the title of this creepy film? Am I remembering it correctly? :scared:
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 11:26 PM
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101. all of "the Sixth Sense" that thing gives me the heeby jeebies
and I'm no kid
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 11:30 PM
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102. The Shining
Jack still scares me sometimes. :scared:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 12:51 AM
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106. Wait Until Dark..
.. the murder in the apartment with the blind woman. I saw it when I was in elementary school.. still freaks me out!
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 12:54 AM
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107. Scarface
(Al Pacino remake)

the "shower" scene with the chainsaw. nasty!
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Doc_Technical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 12:55 AM
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108. "Torn Curtain"
by Alfred Hitchcock
the scene where Paul Newman and Julie Andrews kill the
East German agent.

There was no music, just the desperation of two amateurs
doing something they were not trained to do.
This killing was not heroic or surprising, just cold and ugly.
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:57 AM
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115. that's not
Julie Andrews. I don't recall who it is, but it's the woman (minor character) at the farm where Newman goes to contact PI.

You're right about the intensity of the scene though.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 12:56 AM
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109. The whole
Elmer Gantry movie.
What an evil f**ktard!
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:04 AM
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110. Outer Limits episode "Future Soldier"
Harlan Ellison wrote the script, which James Cameron would innocently plagiarize later on (Harlan and Jim worked out an agreement about it and are speaking nice about each other again).

Now, Terminator was a great movie, but I was five when I saw Future Soldier. The name of the soldier was Quarlo, and Quarlo haunted my dreams for years.

Joe DiStefano is a much-underappreciated auteur.

--bkl
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:35 AM
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112. This is gonna sound ridiculous, but
the scene in "Mars Attacks" where Jack Nicholson, playing the President, shakes hands with the Martian and the hand comes off, starts crawling around on him, and finally impales him, and turns into a flagpole mounted through his chest.

For some strange reason that freaked me out like nothing else. It gives me the creeps now just thinking about it.

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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:55 AM
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114. A TV movie with Richard Crenna about a troubled young boy who
had this injured bird that couldnt fly anymore as a pet and best friend. This boy was in foster care with Crenna. He had problems being accepted and making friends. One day he with some mean neighbor kids when he dropped his bird and the mean kids started throwing rocks at it and rather than save the bird he loved he wanted to be accepted so badly that he joined them in the stoning of the bird, obliterating it. It was shocking and very sad. I've never fforgot that scene and it was probably a 1977-79 movie.
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:31 AM
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122. The Pianist...some spoiler scenes...
I went with a friend not knowing what the movie was about. Midway through I jokingly whispered to her:"there 'aint a lot of piano playin' in this movie." The scene where the Nazi's are going into people's apartments and when they push an old man in a wheelchair off of an upper story balconey, the scene where the Adrian Brody character is carrying around that can of food that he can't open...omg...the only other movie that's ever effected me more was The Deer Hunter.
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LDS Jock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:26 AM
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120. What about the Bush inauguration?
Still gives me nightmares.
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:33 AM
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124. I didn't watch * on that horrible day...
I was in downtown L.A. with several thousand other people protesting.
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:11 AM
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127. The gas chamber scene in War and Remembrance
That was awful. Also, the first fifteen minutes of Saving Private Ryan.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:34 AM
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139. I think everyone should be made to watch this.
so we don't forget. It affected me so profoundly when I saw it.
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Vernunft II Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:41 AM
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128. "The Fog" cost me a few nights of sleep back then.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:45 AM
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129. The earwig thing in The Wrath of Khan.
I must have been eight or nine the first time I saw it and I'm shivering writing this. Not so much the idea of it going into his ear as having it in the helmet with him and not being able to take it off. Yuck.

Also, I saw "Troll" when I was about six and the music creeped me out. Berrkum, berrkum blay (shih-nan).
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:49 AM
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130. Testament
Story of a woman trying to take care of her family after a nuclear attack. It lacks the graphic horror of similar films on the topic, but several scenes just haunt me - burying yur children, the mass cremation scene. I can't think of any other movie that has triggered worse nightmares for me than that one.


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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 05:49 AM
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131. Pee Wee's Big Adventure
The movie scared the hell out of me when I first seen it. Still gives me chills everynow and then from thinking about it.
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melv Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:25 AM
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132. Jacob's Ladder
the scene where the guy's head is shaking violently.....

and then of course there's Hellraiser with Pinhead- the whole of the first movie.
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JawJaw Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:41 AM
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133. Eeeeeek
How about the vampire "window-tapping" scenes from Salem's Lot.... Great TV mini-series that convinced many of the benefits of sealed double glazing.......



Anyone see a spanish short film called La Cabina - about a man who gets trapped in a phone booth? Fantastic plot twist at the end....

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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:49 AM
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136. The last scene in "Don't Look Now"
When Donald Sutherland is attacked by that dwarf...thing.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:38 AM
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140. Anyone seen the 1976 Japanese film, "In the Realm of the Senses"?
If so, then you can't help but recall the final scene, in which the woman uses a butcher knife to sever her dead boyfriend's genitals, which she keeps for...well, whatever reason.

I still have nightmares! :scared:
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:48 AM
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141. The Day After.
Remember this TV movie from 1983? I was 8 years old, and suddenly the thought of Nuclear War entered my head. I remember also seeing in the Guiness Book of World Records that year the entry for the hottest thing in the waorld, which was the center of a nuclear bomb.....something like 450,000,000,000,000,000 degrees celcius.

An eight-year old kid had a nervous breakdown. I couldn't go to school for over a week. I had to enter counselling and lots of therapy (this is true). I just couldn't comprehend the WHY of a nuclear war, or even why humans would invent bombs like that.....I've been a total pacifist ever since.
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SCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:54 AM
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143. Children of the Corn.... no scene just the whold damn movie!
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:02 AM
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145. The clinical regression scene in Audrey Rose
... the end of the movie ... she's regressed to her 'former life', but then starts to suffer the trauma that 'killed' her, and the dr's can't snap her out of it ... the only person from her 'previous' life who was in attendance was not allowed to get to her, so she died all over again.

It was horrifying.

I was .. um ... 14, 15 ?


:hippie:

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