Nude plus-sized model in Glamour causes stir

The nude photo this week that everyone is talking about isn't of some young Hollywood starlet but of Lizzi Miller, a 20-year-old plus-sized model.

Glamour magazine published a photo of Lizzi, naked, in its September issue. And Lizzi, who appeared on NBC's "Today" show, says she can't believe that people actually like the photo because she expected to hear a lot of negative comments about her size 12 body.

Here's what Glamour's editor-in-chief Cindi Leive wrote in her blog:

"It's a photo that measures all of three by three inches in our September issue, but the letters about it started to flood my inbox literally the day Glamour hit newsstands. 'I am gasping with delight...I love the woman on p 194!" said one...then another, and another, and another and another and another."

Me? I can't believe that anyone size 12 is considered plus-sized in the fashion industry.

| Lisa Gutierrez


LINK: (scroll down for msnbc interview)
http://www.kansascity.com/932/story/1403915.html?storylink=omni_popular

caught just a bit of it and they showed the photo.

She's a very beautiful young lady. Some may want to call her "plus" size. I wouldn't.

and yes, she is rich in pulchritude

This woman, size 12, is considered plus-sized?



That's messed up.

mikey_the_rat

Snopes says she was an 8 and at worst a 10.

http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/mmdress.asp

. . . had an opportunity to try on some of Marilyn Monroe's clothing. BUT . . .

Snopes is incorrect when it says that "...today's size 10 dress is smaller than the size
10 dress of fifty years ago...." Today's size 10 dress pattern is sized for a 32-1/2" bust,
25" waist, & 34-1/2" hips; but a size 10 dress pattern in the 50s would be for a 28" bust, a
22" waist, & 31" hips . . . meaning that, due to today's vanity sizing, today's "size 10" dress
is larger.

In the 50s, with Marilyn Monroe's measurements taken into consideration**, that "hourglass figure"
of hers would have needed a 16/18 top and a 10/12 bottom if the outfit was full-skirted; but, with
a bit or expert alteration at the waistline, a 14/16 in a slim-skirt or slacks would work.
So . . . anyway . . . I sent Snope's a long-winded message to that effect.

:eyes:
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** 37-23-36 (studio's claim)
35-22-25 (dressmaker's claim)

Some overweight women look great and can wear tiny bikinis because the weight isn't all in one place. If it's evenly distributed, it looks great. Unfortunately, I'm not evenly distributed.

If she's considered too big, no wonder people have so many body image issues.

very lovely young woman. I wouldn't even think to call her a plus size though.

I went from a size 5 to 18 over 20 years after having kids and the my metabolism disappearing into thin air. I felt pretty good when I was a 8-10, hopefully will get back there someday, I am giving it a noble effort anyway.

definitely did not see myself as a plus size. I've lost 20 pounds, so if 12 is considered by the media to be plus-sized, I guess you could call me normal size now because I wear from a 6 to a 9, which is fairly small.

When she can pass for plus sized something is seriously wrong with our society-

http://www.usmagazine.com/Whitney-Thompson-Named-Americas-Next-Top-Model?page=5

:toast:

"Plus sized" :eyes: On behalf of women everywhere, may I just say to the fashion world: "Bite me."

:toast: from a fellow size 12

:yourock:

Any more at home like you? :*

Mixed because while I applaud seeing a real woman with a normal body in a fashion magazine, I also wonder if we'll see any others.

Also, as to the "plus" thing, I agree that 12 is not 'plus' but if I am not mistaken this particular woman is pretty tall, no? I ask because - and as a guy I don't always get women's sizing - I wonder if being tall can put a woman into the 'plus' category, much like how men's stores often correlate big and tall together, and being tall-ish myself I often have to buy larger clothes.

Anyway, good for her, and good for the magazine for running that photo without retouching the photo. As a photo editor, I would love to see more honest photography in magazines, as most of it is anything but, and I don't mean correcting color balance, or lighting issues. I am sick to death of being shown fake people with impossible bodies, and I think it really is damaging to the collective psyche of women in America, much more than men.

she could be 'plus' sized on the height scale, especially with her given weight at 180...must be an amazon...

still, i can only wish for the love of a woman in my life as "plus-sized" as that!:evilgrin: :loveya:

I saw her on CNN the other night with two of the CNN women - I forget their names, Gloria and maybe Campbell - and those two looked like miniatures compared.

She looked great and powerful and beautiful. and proportioned just fine.

people are nuts when its comes to women and how they 'should' look

there are very, VERY few models that are under 5'8, even print models -- I am 5'4 and most the models I worked with over the years towered over me.

The "Plus" attribute it really about weight. The preference for a model is to be 5'8 or over and in the 110 pound range. And that makes for a very skinny model. And a very unrealistic portrayal for women to view.

:wtf:

Not even close, unless you're some dipshit fashion designer or fashion junkie that thinks women should look like meth addicts.

Lord almighty! No wonder women have such fuck-up ideas about their body image. :grr:

:thumbsup:

she is an attractive young lady but yah, she has a stomach and size 12 is definitely considered plus size and pretty much always has been until we get back to lillian russell days

180 pounds is a BIG girl, i have to assume that this photo was touched up/airbrushed like every other photo in glamour

saying marilyn monroe was size 14 is just not true, unless you mean european size 14 or something

There's always one in these threads.

A size 14 for her era. When I was a teenager, at 5'4 and 112 pounds I was a 10. Thirty years later, I am 5'4, 120 and an magically a size 8. :crazy:

If you look at old patterns from the 50s and 60s, a woman who was 36 24 36 WAS a size 12-14. :shrug:

too big. I hate that. :grr:

:wtf:

I see it in my mirror everyday! That woman is not plus-sized. She is wonderfully proportioned. I could only wish to be so "plus-sized"!

If she's plus-sized, I can't even imagine what category I'd fall under.

So to their way of thinking 12 is a plus size.

It's for science you know.

Please copy me on all photos.

I will share the research.

the scientific method demands it.

Would love to work with her...

Also, she's not naked... she's in undies with her arms across her chest. :eyes:

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(Just checking...lol.)

Am I making sense here?

I mean, who has a problem with a so-called "plus" sized model getting bare assed in a magazine?

She is hot, just the type of woman I like!!!!!

Although I don't really see her as plus sized. I wanna see some nekkid women with some bumpity-bump in the rum and some big baboom in the boobs...and some nice thick thighs and curvy calves.... :P

Absolutely absurd. A woman can be beautiful at any size. I'm married to a beautiful woman that's 5'8 and weighs around 250. The "have to be super thin" thing has been around too long and it's time for it to go...

I don't know her name, googling only brings up pictures and article from several good looking plus size models

http://uglysally.com/blog/blog-fashion/big-girl-you-are-beautiful-mode-sexy-pour-les-rondes



When Crystal Renn aspired to be a model as a 14-year-old in Mississippi, an agent (not from Ford) told her she had to lose 9 inches off of her hips first.

Renn ended up doing that, and then some, going from 175 lbs and 5' 8" to 95 lbs and an inch and a half taller in two years, eventually moving to New York City and launching a successful modeling career.

After conquering the eating disorder that transformed her body, Renn, now 23, is happy to call herself a size 12 plus-size model, who, with her new curvy figure has walked the runway for Gaultier, graced the pages of Vogue and starred in ads for Dolce & Gabbana.

http://www.stylelist.com/blog/2009/08/24/exclusive-plus-size-model-crystal-renn-talks-to-stylelist-about/4

that woman's bodies are held to these days. I'm tired of almost every woman on television and the media in general appearing near anorexic.
There is nothing wrong with thin bodied women but I'd like to see curves more often.






Who got to decide "thin is in" indefinitely?

who is she?

That was a shot from AMC's Mad Men.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0376716/

I really dig shapely women like that :P

edit to add: I really dig Sara Rue,she's just nicely thick :)

but I think she recently lost a lot of weight.

in the pic on the right. She's been on The Big Bang Theory for a couple episodes lately and she was looking just about right...really hot :P

I'll have to watch out for the reruns! :)

She is indeed one very beautiful woman.

The episode Our Mrs. Reynolds was the first time I heard of her. :hi:

I love the adult film star Bree Olson, too, because she actually has a tummy. Meat on the bones, NOT FAT!

Any way,

"Big women are BEYOOTIFUL!" -John Barrowman

I have always prefered full figured women. :hi:

and I was fucking thin. 12 is plus sized???!!!:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

don't most fat lady stores/catalogs start at size 18? THAT is getting into plus. 12?:wtf:

good lord. And 14 is plus when that size encompasses a vast majority of women. Just crazy... :crazy:

Sometimes I think they'd like us to get so thin that we'd disappear...

Sometimes I think some parts of the fashion industry simply don't like women...

:hi:

sigh.

and somewho she is less than desirable? Got some fucked up priorities in the USA.

at a major chain department store I used to work for.

Plus-sized clothes start at 16 in this store, so to dress the mannequins the clothing was pinned all up the back so that the mannequin didn't seem to be floating in the material.

edit to add:

the "regular" mannequins are size 4.

and she loved it, because they actually sold stylish clothing for "plus" girls. She spent half her damn paycheck there every week.

anyway, I'm pretty sure they actually had mannequins that were sized appropriately for "plus"

at least a size 12...

since when did voluptuous become "fat"...

So only non-skinny women are 'real women'?


Well, excuse moi...

There was a time when I was less than size 14, but that was a long time ago on a drill pad far, far away.

Had my annual physical a couple weeks ago. After running the gauntlet, doctor walks in, tosses clip board on desk and says, "Every thing is normal. Go home. I wish everyone your age were as healthy as you are. See ya next year."

So, size zip or good health? May not be an either/or, but if it is, tough choice.

Ms Miller is lovely.