What Is Karl Rove?

Animal, vegetable, or mineral?

and pure evil.

he was my Campaign Politics prof in grad school. I voted other...he's a scum-sucking bottom-feeder...and pure evil. :puke:

Give us dirt! Quick! How bad does he suck as a teacher?

I thirst to know,

The Plaid Adder

We had guest speakers every week because he couldn't be bothered to think of enough to say to fill up a 2 hour class. The speakers included such luminaries as Ralph Reed and Mary Matalin. :eyes:

The thing I really remember is being completely flabbergasted at his complete lack of ethics. The man sees absolutley NOTHING wrong with push-polling. As a person who does stats for a living that just drives me nuts.

At the end of the very last class, the one where Ralph Reed was the guest, Karl referred to me as a "fundamentalist Shiite feminist". I still consider it a badge of honor. :)

You should put that on your resume. I'd be proud!

C ya,

The Plaid Adder

:o

The only good thing I can say about him is that he didn't let our political disagreements affect my grade. I'm not sure if that's because he enjoyed the fighting or because he knew the school I went to would side with me if he had tried to screw me over.

Repost:

Remember when you were a kid and some new toy would come along and the commercials for it were plastered all over the Saturday morning cartoons and before you knew it everyone you knew had one and of course, you had to get one too? It looked so great in the commercial, shiny and fun and promising endless enjoyment. I'm sure it happened numerous times during your childhood. Only, you get the toy and it's not nearly as fun as it looked and it breaks after using it a couple of times. The dissapointment and resentment would well up every time you saw the commercial after that. You knew the truth now and no amount of marketing would ever get you to buy another one of those toys. Maybe they'd sucker you in again for a NEW product, but that toy? History.

Bush is that toy. He was sold to the American people through a marketing and propoganda campaign of epic proportions. 9/11 didn't change Bush, it changed the way the country saw him. The country desperately needed a leader and they projected everything they thought a leader should be into Bush. Unfortunately for Bush and his bosses, they picked a defective product to foist on the American people.

The lustre has worn off and no amount of PR or marketing or propoganda can bring the people back to once again accept what they now know is a defective product. Bush's neocon bosses might have actually been able to pull off their complete seizure of the country if they had picked a different puppet. Someone who had at least a modicum of competence. Bush is not that puppet. He has neither the competence, the charisma or the intelligence. He's lazy, incurious, dull-witted, boorish, obnoxious and astoundingly arrogant. He's defective through and through right down to the very core of his essence and no amount of propoganda or PR will make people believe otherwise now.

And in addition, Rove, who one can say is the puppet master, is not all he's cracked up to be. I've never shared the opinion of many that Rove is brilliant. I've always thought he was a low-brow, ham fisted goon with a few obvious moves: Massive full frontal attack, or backstab and bait and switch. He's over rated.

Always remember, he didn't get the Chimp in by WINNING the election. If he could have done it that way, with smarts and finesse, I would say it was brilliant. To actually successfully sell a defective product takes brilliance. His tactics however, were ruthless thuggery and threats of violence and complete reliance on the Supreme Court. Nothing brilliant there. The Chimps approval ratings skyrocketed because of 9/11, not Rove's brilliance. A brilliant Political strategist would have been able to sustain those numbers. Rove is unable to do that and has NEVER been able to do that. He's a moron and he sucks at his job. He doesn't understand subtlety or nuance or the big picture. He's neither the intellect, the insight or the instincts of a brilliant person. What he does have is vicious ruthlessness in abundance and a propensity to take big risks. That's not brilliant, as a matter of fact, with no sense of moderation, it's quite stupid.

There's no marketing tactic, no amount of propoganda, no selling this defective product anymore. The best they can hope for is another anemic, short-lived blip in the polls as a result of some stunt, like capturing Bin Laden. This ride is over.

Keep in mind, I'm not claiming they won't "win" the next election, they very well might, but it won't be because they get the most votes.

just f**king brilliant. Good point about sustaining the numbers after 9/11.

I didn't then, and I don't now, understand all the whorporate media falling all over themselves to remind us, repeatedly.... endlessly, what a great leader squatter is/was. In a country obsessed w/ mediocrity, he is the prime Xample of mediocre.

add: I have suspicions that saurov thinks all of us R as dim-witted (and mediocre) as his puppet. This is a major mistake.

Said much the same thing myself a few days earlier here:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/plaidder/39442.html

I think you can stick a fork in Rove AND in the Chimp.

Moohoohahaha,

The Plaid Adder

almost became a partner of Rove's outfit:

http://www.alternet.org/election04/2004/03/001776.html

(snip)
John Kerry is going as close to the fire as possible, reportedly receiving advice from a former adviser to John McCain. John Weaver, once nearly a partner of Karl Rove's, was a made man in Texas Republican circles before serving as Political Director for McCain against Bush in 2000.
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With a reputation for black humor: 'get divorced, quit your job, switch parties, and get leukemia in one year — this is not a reputation for success,' Weaver gives some very serious reasons for having quit the party. He cites, 'Disgust with the Republican hierarchy,' from years of watching congresspeople check with industry donors before taking positions -- with the Bush 2000 campaign sealing the deal. The Rove smear machine apparently floated rumors that McCain was insane and that he'd impregnated a prostitute.
Weaver counsels remaining on the offensive and preparing for absolutely anything. So far that's proved good advice as the media's been much kinder to the Kerry campaign's sturdy defense of his sharp criticism of the Republican party than they've ever been to the traditional Democratic response of 'backpedal and apologize.'
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:kick:

I agree that the best defense against Rovian bullshit is a good offense. If you try to defend yourself against every attack you have no time to do anything else. Been waiting for the party to figure that out.

Let the games begin,

The Plaid Adder

...and if Kerry is really smart, he's getting advice from them as well.

:kick::kick::kick:

Not sure what that is supposed to mean...

http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?KarlRove