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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 07:56 PM
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I don't like Country but I like Willie Nelson - Am I so wrong?
He just does it with....um, style...

Style you don't see in Brooks and Dunn, or any other generic Country and Western band
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:05 PM
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1. I hate trashville too, commerical country...
...I grew up with country music but only took to certain people like Willie Nelson, whom I've seen twice live, once with his full band and the other time just him and his old guitar. Incredible on so many levels, a beautiful artist and performer.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:07 PM
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2. Yes! And he does that speed-up thing at certain points that the classics did!
I always thought it was a shame he and the dead never toured together...

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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:10 PM
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3. No you aren't wrong. I like old school country.
The kind with Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings and of course Willie!


I even like Garth!
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:15 PM
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4. Old school country and alternative country, I both love....
check out soma.fm, the boot liquor channel, great mix of old and alternative

http://somafm.com/play/bootliquor
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EndersDame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:17 PM
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5. Is it not funny that "alternative" sounds more like old country
I love Dale Watson and Wayne Hancock
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:22 PM
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8. Hank III said it best: "the older you sound, the punker you are." nt
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EndersDame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:23 PM
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9. Fuck yeah for Hank III
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 04:16 AM
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25. somafm is a brilliant internet station.
They play all kinds of music I like, including old country and, appropriately, Lounge :D
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:28 AM
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26. i'm addicted, where else can you hear Orbital, Thom Yorke and Willie Nelson?
Not on the same station, but on one of the channels...My favs are Drone Zone, Space Station, Digitalis, Suburbs of Goa, Boot Liquor or "American Roots Rock", they also play John Doe.
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:19 PM
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6. If you had not have fallen...
then I would not have found you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jfBxfltYD0

:yourock:

Hard to post this.. it.. uhh.. well..

:cry:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:20 PM
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7. I dare ANYBODY to copycat this thread!
:rofl:
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:36 PM
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10. That's because Willie isn't "Country," Willie is a style unto his own...
...kind of in the same way that Jerry Garcia wasn;t a "rock and roll guitar player" and the Grateful Dead were not / are not a "rock and roll band."

A good example is his "Stardust" album, filled with songs by Hoagy Carmichael, Irving Berlin, Kurt Weill, Duke Ellington, George & Ira Gershwin...

...certainly not a "Country" album, but long considered one of his most successful genre-hopping experiments.

I saw him in concert, with Emmylou Harris as his opening act. At the time he had a couple of other similarities to the Grateful Dead...L-O-N-G sets (he played for three hours) and these "medleys" that weren't really medleys in the strict sense, because he'd take a half dozen songs and segue them together, each played in its entirety.

I'd have to say that "liking Country music" isn't a prerequisite for appreciating Willie. In his world, it's a launching pad, npot a quality that defines him in black and white terms.

:toast:
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:39 PM
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11. Willie Nelson & Bob Dylan: Pancho and Lefty
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:44 PM
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12. Hell yes...
...Willie's version with Merle has long been a favorite. I love Emmylou's version, too, but Willie took ownership of this song in the same way that Hendrix took ownership of "All Along The Watchtower."



:toast:
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:50 PM
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14. .
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:54 PM
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15. I know, but the song fit Willie like a glove...
...and as much as I hate to admit it, Townes...in his lifetime...was under my radar as a performer. I knew the name, I knew the songs, and the first time I heard him was a few years ago, on cable, when they showed "Be Here To Love Me"...

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTQ4MjgxNjU4M15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjUwMTkzMQ@@._V1._SX270_SY400_.jpg

I probably would have been a fan of Townes in his lifetime in the same way that I was a fan of Gram Parsons, but the direct exposure never happened.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:59 PM
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16. Have you seen this?
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:10 PM
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19. I used to watch "American Music Shop" regularly...
...they once had an amazing performance of Chet Atkins backing Cheryl Wheeler and a male vocalist I don;t remember on the Nino Tempo-April Stevens hit "Deep Purple"...it was one of those "hair stands up on the back of the arms" performances, and for my money, "American Music Shop" was probably the single finest showcase for this kind of music at the time.

So the chances of my having seen this clip when it originally aired are pretty good.

I also noticed that directly to the right of the clip is the link for Steve Earle's version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPOOE02sovk

...and a second Earle performance of the song, "From the in store performance at Cactus Records in Houston on 5/16/09"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIsuNgdap84

...and again, 5-18-09 Austin at Waterloo Records in Austin, cd release show for "Townes"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfygO7NfIDU

...and Steve Earle & Emmylou's duet on Townes' "If I Needed You"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SysBazd50D8

...and finally, a more recent Emmylou performance of "Pancho" from Mountain Winery in Saratoga, 7-27-08... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3xRw1RBmFI

:toast:
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:24 PM
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20. Willie & Merle's version
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:33 PM
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21. ...and the link to the right of that one, Willie & Ray Charles, "Seven Spanish Angels"...
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 01:39 PM
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29. I regret to say I know very little of Steve Earle's music, so thanks for posting those. nt
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:45 PM
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13. Willie is the man.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:01 PM
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17. Get next to a pint of Willie's peach cobbler ice cream, and crank it up!
Sorry, Colbert, but Willie's is better!
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:06 PM
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18. It's good, isn't it? Our corner gas station carried it for awhile. nt
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:22 AM
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22. Willie transcends genre. Do not adjust your television (nt).
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:25 AM
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23. He and Johnny Cash, both.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:32 AM
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24. That's because Country is fucking horrible.
It is one of the most soulless genres of music out there (next to pop and christian rock). It's music for people that hate music and enjoy commercial crap.

There are very few Country artists that even deserve to be recorded.
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 01:40 PM
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30. Yeah, ever since Garth Brooks,
country has been music for white suburban soccer moms that used to be into Winger. Sentimental arena rock with twang and the occasional fiddle or pedal steel.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:07 PM
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32. Garth Brooks looked at the Eagles and thought "I could do that, and call it Country"
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:17 PM
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39. You're right about that. I keep my clock radio tuned to a country music station.
It definitely wakes me up in a heartbeat and I know that I'm not going to roll over and fall asleep listening to it. I'm going to get up and turn that damn crap off! No snooze alarmm either. I don't want to hear it go off more than once.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 01:30 PM
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27. I liked country better back when it was ugly
-- Tim Wilson
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 01:36 PM
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28. Willie is under appreciated
by a great many so called music 'lovers' in this country. You, my friend, show great taste and sophistication in your choice to admire Willie! :toast:
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 01:50 PM
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31. Patsy Cline-Crazy, written by Willie Nelson in 1961
Edited on Sun Oct-04-09 01:56 PM by mix
live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-wJNpWgss8
studio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzq5X-p2C0Y&feature=related

Willie Nelson stated on the 1993 documentary Remembering Patsy that Cline's version of "Crazy" was his favorite song of his that anybody had ever recorded because it "was a lot of magic."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_%28Willie_Nelson_song%29
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:15 PM
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33. The only thing better than Willie is...
Edited on Sun Oct-04-09 02:17 PM by GoCubsGo
...Waylon and Willie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbcIF1J_jnI

Miss you, Waylon.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:27 PM
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34. They made some great music together.
Edited on Sun Oct-04-09 02:35 PM by mix
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:53 PM
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35. Me too!
I like Willie Nelson too, but I don't like C&W.

Willie's rendition of "My Heroes Have Always Been Cowboys" in The Electric Horseman was superb. :thumbsup:
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Jetboy Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:07 PM
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36. Willie is as country as grits and gravy so you do like country.
There are plenty more good ones where Willie came from. IMO the golden age of country was roughly the same years as the golden age of rock-n-roll, 50s and early 60s. A show like Town Hall Party from that era featured both kinds of music, often with a blurred distinction.
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:10 PM
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37. There's a lot of GOOD country music
actually, I think much of it is wonderful poetry (NOT the "I killed my dog & my granny is in prison, and my pickup is cool, etc)

Can you say Trisha Yearwood? Kim Richey? Mary Chapin Carpenter?

And hey, Brookes & Dunn are GOOD, terrific rockers and makers of great dance music.

But I'm from Oklahoma. Whaddya expect?
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:12 PM
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38. I don't like country music either, but Willie is one of my favorite entertainers.
I've seen him in concert a few times. The last time I went with my daughter and she was really surprised to learn how many songs he had written for other performers. He's a classic.
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