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Tobin S. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 11:25 PM
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Poll question: Casinos are on the ballot in Ohio again.
Last time we voted it down. I guess they are going to keep bugging us about it until we say yes. The last time there was a possible loop-hole that could have allowed the casinos to avoid paying state taxes. I don't think that's there this time and there is a large amount of money that would be coming in for a state in need of it. They also claim that the casinos will create 34,000 jobs. The only problem I see now is the amount of addicts they will create. What do you think? Is it worth it?
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 12:19 AM
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1. My dear Tobin...
I'm inclined to think it's not worth it...

But then, I don't gamble.

Good luck with this!

:hi:

:shrug:

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Tobin S. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 12:33 AM
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2. I don't gamble, either
I used to and I know how gambling can ruin your life. I've seen the addiciton in action and even felt it's claws digging into me. That's why I hesitate to go with it.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 12:37 AM
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3. Only worth it in Ohio.
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 12:37 AM
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4. I will be voting No again.
This is SO not worth it, and I definitely do not trust the guy behind it. He's an uber-right winger that helped give us Bob Taft. No thanks, to that whole bunch!

:hi: neighbor!
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:44 AM
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5. I hope you vote no and we get rid of our obstructionist Republics so we can steal yo money
It's weird that your wingnuts are shoving it on you and ours won't let it see the light of day by any trick they can invent.
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Tobin S. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:51 AM
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6. Well, you're down there in Bible belt
Our Republicans are thinking about the money; yours are thinking about going to hell. :)
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 04:33 AM
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7. The money that goes into them has to come from somewhere
Can the average people of your state afford to pay to create 34000 jobs plus a few new richer RW'rs?

Personally, I would vote no. If theres gonna be gambling, I prefer a lottery form where its controlled by the state, paying for some essential function rather than going into private pockets.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 08:00 AM
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8. Same tactic was used in Detroit
The issue was on ballot after ballot, failing every time.

Finally one squeaked by. Now we have three casinos, with no noticable effect on the local economy. Just one more way to siphon money away.

And the issue will never hit a ballot again. I think we're stuck with the things.

No, not worth it.

:hi:

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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 10:02 AM
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9. They keep trying until they win
And they have way more money than the opposition. Here in Detroit they ruined Greektown. It used to be a very cool area full of Greek restaurants and bakeries. Now it looks like shit and has lost almost all of its charm.
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blueknight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 11:16 AM
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10. ohio should pass it
why let the tax dollars go elsewhere? everybody in ohio that wants to gamble goes to indiana or ky anyhow. also, it is a lot of jobs
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deucemagnet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 11:39 AM
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11. I'm a poker player and a brand new Ohio resident (3 weeks).
I probably won't be registered in time to vote on this, but, of course, I'd vote yes. I don't think there's much we can do to prevent addicts from developing bad habits. Thanks to the internet, gambling is more pervasive than ever, and even somebody without an internet connection can gamble at one of Ohio's racetracks or take a short trip to a casino in an adjacent state. Besides, history shows us that prohibition doesn't work. Ohio needs to get it's piece of the pie.

It doesn't affect me too much personally, since I'm very close to several Indiana casinos. Also, I'll only be living in this area temporarily, but while I'm here, it looks like my gaming dollars are either going to Indiana or internet sites.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 12:04 PM
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12. My opinion.. why should we let all that revenue go to the other surrounding states? People
will find a way to gamble if they are addicted. Also why are the churches allowed to have their bingo and monte carlo nights? Is this not gambling? Is this not feeding the gambling addiction as well? Beside we need something to do in this state besides watching the corn grow.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 12:09 PM
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13. that was the argument used in Maryland's successful ballot bid
keep all that money in the state that would normally go to West Virginia, New Jersey, and now Pennsylvania. Nothing has been built yet, so no idea how all the proposed casinos will help the state.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:03 PM
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17. I don't think that argument is correct either, it's the one that everyone used
here in Pittsburgh, and so far it's not true- we aren't getting all that money that was projected. Personally, I think it's a boondoggle.
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Lady President Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 12:14 PM
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14. This Ohioan is a "no"
I don't buy that 34,000 jobs will be created-- some during construction and low wage jobs once it has been build, but most jobs will be out-of-staters moving here.

I agree about the gambling addicts that it will create. High unemployment, depression, and the hope of quick money is not a good combo.

Not worth to me.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 02:13 PM
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15. No. The jobs number is complete hot air.
And only letting certain politically connected franchisees be able to open a casino?

Either you grant anyone that can meet the criteria a gaming license, or no one.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-04-09 03:01 PM
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16. we have one here in PIttsburgh now, it took forever to build, the one owner
developed money problems, it caused incredible city dissension and traffic woes, pissed off the Steelers, and hasn't made much money so far, despite the State's over-freighted projections of gambling as the way to end all ills. In short, it's expensive and addictive bull-shit and everyone should vote it down.

I think it did create some jobs, but minority and local areas had to fight to get a piece of that pie, as well.


That's my 2 cents.
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