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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:29 AM
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need some help hanging art on drywall
I have a 24 x 36 frame. The borders are wood, the back is cardboard and the protective front is plastic. Keep in mind this is a 20 dollar frame from The Christmas Tree Shop. The back has a little metal bar to hang from. Its about an inch long. All my other frames are hung by 4 wall tacks. Two on top to hang from, and two on bottom to rest on just for security. This frame is just to heavy for that. I would like to avoid nailing a huge nail into the wall. Any suggestions, hooks, should I attach a wire?

Thanks
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:37 AM
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1. Wire is the best way to hang art
as for the huge nail in the wall, that's another issue. However, I've found hangars that use a hook and nail system that seem to hold pretty well.
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LeftyFingerPop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:41 AM
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2. Here is what I do with good success...
Go to Home Depot, in the section where they sell the nuts and bolts, etc.

You will find picture hangers that are weight rated.

They are gold in color. It comes with a VERY sharp gold color nail that is driven downward and diagonally through the hanger, into the sheetrock. You do not have to drive them into a stud directly.

You are then left with a hook on the wall that will hold the weight that it is rated for.

Ypu can attach the metal bar on the frame to the hook, or you can wire up the frame and attach the wire...whichever you prefer.

Good luck.
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LeftyFingerPop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:43 AM
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3. PS...the nail is not very wide and it will leave only a fine hole in the wall.
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:47 PM
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13. Even if you do use nails, after you move out, you can put a little plaster fix over those holes, and
they won't show at all.
dc
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:11 PM
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10. These work very well.
I've seen, and used, some that were rated up to 60 pounds to hang large mirrors (used two of them, though, in an overabundance of caution.) They used to be called "bulldog hooks" - I think it was a brand name once upon a time. Anyway, some old-timey hardware store types still call them that, so if you can't find them, find an experienced hardware guy or gal, and ask them for bulldog hooks.
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:46 PM
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12. The hook might hold by the drywall or plaster might not. Particularly if it is old
and crumbly.
A nail on the stud is better. With a big head, to hold the wire.
dc
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:45 AM
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4. Okay...
to hang anything that heavy (assume we're talking a solid 3-5lb. frame) onto drywall you've either got to find the stud in the wall or you're going to have to break out the drill to install a drywall anchor.



It's not difficult to do, most people have done it before and if not, it sounds more intimidating than it really is. Figure out exactly where you want to hang the artwork, drill a hole slightly smaller than the anchor, screw or hammer the anchor in, screw the screw into the anchor using the screw to attach your hook to the wall.

As for should you install a wire on the frame. Yes. It makes it easier to adjust the artwork to make it hang level and it's better for the wall as it will disperse the weight of the object across a wider point than the 1" bracket on the frame.
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LeftyFingerPop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:52 AM
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5. that will work good, but those anchors leave a quarter inch hole in the wall.
The picture hangers that I discussed above can be purchased to up to a 50 pound rating I believe, and they leave a tiny hole the width of a toothpick.

:hi:
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 04:24 PM
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8. I brought the frame to a hardware store
and the gentleman highly recommended this way. He said it was the easiest, cheapest, and in the long run will do the least damage to the wall. I didn't even need a drill. A phillips head screwed in the anchor, then the screw, leaving just enough visible to chatch the grooved metal hanger strip in the middle of the frame.

Easy as pie, very sturdy. Thanks everyone
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:54 AM
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6. You need to get museum hangers (not expensive)
Any hardware should have them. They use an impossibly small nail, but it is made from hardened steel. They come in different weight ratings using between one and three nails. I've hung huge mirrors with the things. They are more expensive than the cheap shit from China, but we're only talking a couple of bucks for the strongest ones.

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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 11:05 AM
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7. thanks everyone
I am going to go to the hardware store later and look for either the museum hangers or those steel ones. I appreciate all of your advice. Will post a pic when I am up and running.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 05:08 PM
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9. for real security, one can hot glue the art to the wall. Never goes crooked, too! eom
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:18 PM
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11. If you go nails, rather than drywall anchors, put a bit of tape over the spot where you intend
to drive the nail
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:04 PM
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14. thanks, I already did the drywall anchor
just waiting for the art to show...

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:08 PM
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15. this is what i`m using for all my artwork
http://www.asseenontv.com/prod-pages/hercules_hook.html

i have used these or the knock offs and they work! i used two to hang a 3 foot long picture that weighed around 30 lbs. they are easy to use and leave a very small hole in the wall.
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:10 PM
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16. I don't think I would trust them
though you have had success......for smaller art yes

but this is dangerously close to my mac and if it fell........well
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:11 PM
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17. Who is Art?
How much does he weigh?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 12:08 AM
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18. Just paint it right on the drywall. Duh!
:hide:
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 01:10 AM
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19. My fullproof method: 1) tear out centerfold. 2) tape it to the wall.
;)

Actually, I've had success with the hooks described above, although I generally try to hit a stud if possible...
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