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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:34 PM
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Saving for retirement sucks...
I feel like a fuddy-duddy -- I'm 23, at home, and writing checks to my IRA so that I can go the casinos when I'm 65 years old. . .

I know theoretically it makes sense. I've seen the calculations. But I just feel like an idiot giving money to a brokerage instead of to loose women and bartenders.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:37 PM
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1. Mrs. DancingBear, the financial planner, sez

keep it up - you're doing fine... :)
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:38 PM
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2. It just feels a little too.... responsible!
I mean what the hell am I doing trying to max out a Roth before Apr 15...
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:40 PM
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3. Keep socking it away. You won't regret it.
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:43 PM
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4. Dweebiness is the cost of future comfort
tis true :)
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:45 PM
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5. I've heard way too many horror stories
Edited on Sun Mar-21-04 04:46 PM by DancingBear
of people that are $100,000 in debt - on credit cards alone.

Dweeb on.... :)
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:49 PM
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7. I actually have quite a bit of debt from college loans, car
etc. It's not totally clear to me whether to pay off loans or save for retirement.

The debt is slowly dwindling (not fast enough, but it's going down, and I'm living fairly well)--but there's a legal and mathematical window of opportunity that I'm in right now for saving for retirement.

I've got relatives who say it's smarter to pay off debt than save for a future day, and it's not an easy judgment.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:53 PM
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8. Pay off the highest interest stuff first
Whatever you're not sticking in your IRA put most of your debt pay off money to the most expensive debt. It's the high interest rates over time that kill you in the debt department.
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:58 PM
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10. I find that what's most vital is being ORGANIZED
I got a copy of Quicken, organized all my debts. Put all my CC debt on one CC.

I think what's most harmful--beyond actually spending more than what you have--is not knowing what's going, living in wilfull ignorance of your own finances.

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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 05:27 PM
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13. $100,000 on CREDIT CARDS?
Just noticed that--Holy Hell! How does that happen?
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:46 PM
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6. Yep, You're doing the right thing
Later, when you're married with kids (and looking at paying for mortgages and their college tuition) you'll be glad you started NOW.

Keep it up! :thumbsup:
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:58 PM
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9. Sometimes, listening to DU for financial advice

is liking asking a tree for change of a dollar.

I'm assuming you have a financial advisor, or someone who can draft a financial roadmap for you?

If you were in Virginia, I could recommend one. :)
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:59 PM
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11. Nah, I'm just bitching online DB
I've read enough personal finance books to know exactly what to do. There are margin calls--retire debt or save, 401(k) or IRA--but it's mostly common sense and organization...
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:59 PM
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12. its tougher not saving, honey. you're doing the right thing. get a tax
deferred annuity. they take the donation out before they
calculate taxes and therefore what is left is taxed at a
lower level. when you do pay taxes you do when you're older
and the rate is lower.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 06:18 PM
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14. You will be astounded how much what you
add now means later. Before I had kids, I worked for the state and always contributed the maximum. Twenty years later it's one of my biggest assets. I even put it all in socially progressive funds. Do it because it may allow you to leave a job that you despise sometime in the future.
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