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Tobin S. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 01:58 PM
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What's a nice, atheist boy to do?
Atheist dating sites are lame. Nobody close unless you live in a big city. Bars? I used to drink and smoke heavily and now I don't do either. The last place I want to be in is a bar. Church? :rofl:

I'm a member of a popular dating site and I've dated six women and talked to several others from there over the past couple of years. I've turned loose of a couple, but most of them turn loose of me. One reason is the atheism deal. Even if you are one of those atheists who is okay with people who believe in God, none of those people seem willing to reciprocate the open-mindedness. Out in the real world I don't even talk to people about religion unless I run across someone who is trying to save me. It's really not that important of an issue to me. I suppose I could lie about it, but that's not really my style.

Any ideas or links would be appreciated.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 02:06 PM
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1. Arranged marriage with another atheist family...?
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Tobin S. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 02:08 PM
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2. There we go. Or how about a mail order bride?
:D
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 02:13 PM
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3. I have two atheist daughters but they are a bit young I'm sure
:)
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 02:15 PM
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4. do you visit
http://www.atheistnexus.org/ or http://www.meetup.com/ ?

You can check out the singles areas on Atheist Nexus, or look for atheist/freethinking groups that meet in your area.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 02:15 PM
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5. Perhaps a presents to break to ice?
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 02:23 PM
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6. Since I'm a Buddhist
Before I met my wife there was a bit of the same thing going on in regards to potential girlfriends/dates. I was just honest w/ them and the ones who took it to be some sort of otherworldly/cult-like to not be a Chistian I didn't waste my time on.

Just keep plugging away, man.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 02:29 PM
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7. Wow, I wasn't even aware Athiests wanted companionship....
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 02:32 PM
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8. Why wouldn't they? They're humans like everyone else, they just don't happen
to agree on the existence of some supernatural being.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 02:32 PM
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9. See, I don't know what they do or don't believe in. This post is a real eye opener
for me.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 02:39 PM
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11. They're individuals, just like everyone else. Atheist is a name made up by
religious types. Nobody goes around making names for groups that don't believe in Thor, or don't believe in the Easter Bunny. There is no name for people that don't think intelligent aliens traveled millions of light years just to mess around with some farmer and his cow.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 02:42 PM
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12. Individuals? What if they're in a group? Do they eat and go to the bathroom and stuff?
What color is their blood, yellow or green?

I mean I've heard of athiests before but never thought...I don't know. I may have to take the rest of the day off work...
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 02:44 PM
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13. OK - well, TBH, I was mostly typing for the truly uninitiated, since the question
was there, not specifically directed at you.
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:56 AM
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44. You've seriously never heard of Anal Probe Denialists?
.
I think in most metropolitan areas they now have bi-weekly support group meetings.
.
.
.
.
My name is Middlefingermom... and I've been an Anal Probe Denialist for three weeks now.
.
Hi, Middlefingermom!
Hi, Middlefingermom!
Hi, Middlefingermom!
Hi, Middlefingermom!
Hi, Middlefingermom!
Hi, Middlefingermom!
Hi, Middlefingermom!
Hi, Middlefingermom!
Hi, Middlefingermom!
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etc.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:56 PM
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49. heheh - perhaps, but not as an all-encompassing name for a group :) n/t
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orestes Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 02:33 PM
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10. Well, sometimes
it gets boring eating kittens and puppies all by ones lonesome.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 07:30 PM
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21. I'm an Atheist, and I only eat lizards, so I'm even more isolated.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 09:13 PM
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29. Here's a hint:
Breath mints will take care of that lizard breath problem.
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:46 AM
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42. No.
.
No, it doesn't.
.
.
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And if you weren't such a nothingness-damned atheist, "He" would be there to make sure
that you never actually had to eat kittens and puppies all by your lonesome.
.
My FAVORITE Bible story is when He fed the multitudes with five loaves and two kittens.
.
What's never mentioned is the fact that He stretched them with 3,862 boxes of Kitten Helper.
.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 02:46 PM
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14. Get involved in your local artistic community
The more interesting and open-minded people congregate there.

Community theater offers the most opportunities for the average person--Even if you can't act, sing, or dance, you can build sets, do publicity, keep the books, assist the director, sell tickets, strike sets. Any one of these will get you admission to the cast party.

If there is a Unitarian-Universalist congregation within a reasonable distance, it may be worth investigating, since it's been my experience that they go out of their way to avoid mentioning God. (Someone once asked me why I didn't become a U-U, given that my theology isn't entirely standard, and I replied that I wanted some actual religion in my religion.)

Anyway, lose the dating sites and the bars and get involved in your community. Any political campaigns coming up? Any gyms to join? Any soup kitchens or other public service projects?

You may not meet the love of your life, but you'll make friends outside of work, and that makes life a whole lot easier to bear.

Wherever the love of your life is, she is not going to just show up in your living room.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 02:48 PM
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15. Is atheism like a religion that you have to marry within your belief in a lack of it?
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:05 AM
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36. uh, he answered that question in his post.
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 12:11 AM by Duppers
Acceptance usually flows only one way, but it's much more complicated than that.

As http://democraticsingles.net/ says, it's dating within "your species."

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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 02:50 PM
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16. How about humanists?
Humanist Chapter of the Miami Valley
AHA chapter
Karen A. Price
809 McCleary
Dayton, OH 45406-2820
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 06:49 AM
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43. I'd settle for humanOIDS. ... ... ... n/t
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 03:03 PM
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17. Any Unitarian Churches near you?
There are quite a few Atheists who belong to that church...ironic as it may seem
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 03:16 PM
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18. Best of luck to you!
Once, when I confided to a someone that I don't believe in god, he actually asked me if I worship the devil. :eyes:

A site for atheists only is probably your best bet.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 06:48 PM
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19. Just stick to your principles, Tobin...
and don't worry about the rest. Any woman who likes a man that can be manipulated to let go of what he firmly believes isn't worth having. Nothing ahead there but a life of misery, bud.

Just be who you are and one day someone who likes you for that, and that alone, will come along. It's definitely worth the wait.

:hug:
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 07:48 PM
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23. Absolutely right Hippywife!
Tobin, I know you and I know what a loyal and good friend you are. You are a hardworking principled man. Give it time and it will be worth it when the right woman comes along.


Be who you are. Best advice ever.


:)
:hug:


:loveya:

aA
kesha
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 07:18 PM
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20. There are also specifically progressive sites; probably not lots and lots of people on em,
but they exist.. Democraticmatch( I think) is one and I've seen ads for other sites in magazines. Can't remember which, but probably ones like The Progressive, Utne Reader, Mother Jones etc....better shot at meeting an atheist or one who won't be bothered in the least that you are. Good luck, Tobin...You're a good guy who deserves to be happy and not alone except if you wanted to be, which you obviously don't. ( Me neither but I keep procrastinating about doing something about it).
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 07:43 PM
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22. go on eHarmony.com and lie your ass off
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 08:03 PM
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24. here's some links ...can't vouch for any of em but here are a few
http://democraticsingles.net/

and this is new on that site I think ( haven't browsed it in many months)
http://democraticsingles.net/ohio-dating.php

http://democratmatch.com/


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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 08:24 PM
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26. OOPS--already had forgotten you said : "atheist sites are lame" ( short term memory loss)
Edited on Tue Feb-09-10 08:25 PM by abq e streeter
(which I paid damn good money for, so might as well use it; the memory loss I mean)......hopefully the progressive sites are a little better...
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 08:16 PM
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25. My wife says she believes in God. I have a don't ask, don't tell policy about it, so I don't know
the details.

I love my wife very much.

She knows I'm an atheist, and she accepts it.

I have a don't ask don't tell policy with most of my intimate world as well. The bigotry against atheists is one of the strongest there is.

More people say they will vote for a gay President, a black President or any other kind of President than will vote for an atheist President, although several earlier Presidents - including some great Presidents - were variously thought to be atheists.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:49 AM
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40. I'm sure many, many more people are atheists than others would suspect.
Many people don't talk about it -- but we're out there!
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 09:06 PM
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27. Hit a Unitarian church or fellowship. Several of them.
Common in cities.

I met my honey at a UU church fifteen years ago.

We're both secular humanist agnostics/atheists.
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 09:08 PM
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28. I know people where you are who are artsy and not religiony at all-
What age are you interested in?
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 09:21 PM
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30. You might look into other community organizations and activities.
Whatever interests you: art classes, community theater, bowling, bicycle clubs, political causes, etc.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 10:30 PM
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31. You should find Jesus...
...and see if he has a sister you could go out with.
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OrwellwasRight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 10:37 PM
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32. I'm a nice, single, atheist girl.
We're everywhere in fact.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 10:51 PM
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33. I just got lucky and found a liberal Episcopalian that didn't...
...mind mind my non-belief/agnosticism regarding religion.

We'll be married seven years this August. She's the greatest woman I've ever known and I love her to death.

Dumb luck and DU helped out. I was visiting family in NC and posted a thread in the lounge about a Charlotte get together and voila! I met Stephanie AKA Thtwudbeme and we immediately hit it off and got married within six months with her in NC and me in Florida.

I wasn't in Charlotte to find a girlfriend or future wife - I just went to meet so anti-Bush types and have a beer or two.
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onestepforward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:48 AM
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39. Cool story!
You really never know when you'll meet that someone special. I met mine too, unintentionally and by chance. :)
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:36 AM
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47. Is she still posting here? I remember that name!
My mother is a liberal Episcopalian and my father
was an atheist.

My Mom does not believe in bible inerrancy, she
believes it to be all stories and parables.

They were married for 44 years, until my Dad
died from ALS.

They never argued religion, but she is/was disappointed
that all 5 of us kids are atheists who opted not to attend
church as soon as we were given the choice.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 11:46 PM
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34. www.okcupid.com
You can control how important different factors are to you, and you can rate atheism as mandatory, etc.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-09-10 11:56 PM
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35. Find a UU congrgation.
Neo-Pagan chicks for teh win!!! :loveya:
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:23 AM
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37. First, use 'agnositc'
Now, I'm female and have been married for a while so I'm not the best advice giver here. But here goes; stay open minded. Use this site for reference if pulled into discussion about the bible.
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
(My personally favorite site)

Ask not too challenging questions. Learn to discuss the book of Job. (Even Carl Jung ranted about the Book of Job. He also said something to the effect that faith needs no proof, because, well it's FAITH) Read renagades like Elaine Pagels (ie "The Gnostic Gospels, or The Book of Thomas) That way you can have a conversation that doesn't involve too much bullshitting on your own values.

In other words, let the religious stay that way unless they're total evangelistic Palin type wing nuts. Having faith isn't really all that bad, it's pretty cool for many people as long as no one confuses it with science. I know religious women who date athiest men, they manage to find a common ground

Where to meet them? What ever your interests are. I like sci-fi, astronomy and books. So If I was looking I'd go to say, a sci fi convention. (Yes, I'm a geek) But there's lots of other stuff out there.
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:47 AM
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38. Let go, let God.
Even if you don't believe in God. In other words: Be true to yourself, enjoy the company of your friends, and true love will probably smash down your front door when you least expect it. It may sound trite, yet that was my experience. Now, fifteen years later, I am happily married to a beautiful woman who believes in God yet respects my atheism.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 12:51 AM
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41. stick with Agnostics
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 08:01 AM
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45. Religion, for better and worse, is social glue.
When we opt out of it completely--and particularly when we refuse to give it lip service--we are closing some doors.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 08:28 AM
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46. There may actually be people of faith out there that won't try to save your soul
Leave yourself open to that possibility.
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JoDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:51 AM
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48. As Single Jewish female (32 years old),
frankly, I'm open-minded about atheism. So long as the guy is open minded and understands my need to believe. Heck, I even agree with some of the arguments of atheism.

Perhaps you could try some of the Jewish dating sites. A lot of the people on them are culturally/ethnically Jewish but not practicing. The reform, conservative and humanist Jewish communities also have long track records of tolerance for atheism. In fact the idea of the "atheist Jew" is almost a cliche in some places.

Good luck Tobin. Let us know what happens.
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Tobin S. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 01:44 PM
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51. Thanks everyone.I appreciate the kind words and especially the humor.
:thumbsup:

I had to post and run yesterday due to my crazy work and sleep schedule. I didn't expect so many responses! A couple of things asked above: I'm 37. I've also tried a Unitarian church before and I just couldn't get into it. That was a while ago, though, and it might be worth another shot. Also, I'm perfectly okay with being with someone who believes. Unfortunately, I haven't found a believer who is okay with my non-beliefs.
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marzipanni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 01:43 PM
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50. I googled a bit and found this, sounds interesting ...
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Tobin S. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 01:46 PM
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52. Hahaha. I'm on their mailing list. :)
Unfortunately, due to my work schedule, I haven't been able to meet with them. One of these days I might make a point of it to take a day off when they have a meet-up.
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