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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 02:15 AM
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Why hasn't there been a flick about Kerouac and the Beats?
Who would play a good Jack Kerouac?
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 02:37 AM
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1. The annoying nature of the Beats transcends generations.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 02:41 AM
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2. Thank you, Mr. Capote.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 10:14 AM
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17. I really did laugh out loud (although I do agree with Lost in Anomie and Capote)
nice retort :)
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 02:37 AM
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27. haha
:)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 09:47 AM
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13. Glorification of a lazy-assed misogynist. Ugh! Spare us! nt
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 02:16 AM
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25. What's lazy-assed about writing? And in both prose and poetry?
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 02:49 AM
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3. "One Fast Move or I'm Gone: Kerouac's Big Sur."
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:31 AM
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4. Thank you! I've read all Kerouac's novels but did not know
about this flick. I'll check it out. Do the beats still have a following in Europe?

:hi:
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:43 AM
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5. I dunno about Europe in general, but
my Swiss husband is a huge fan of Kerouac, Burroughs and Ginsberg, as am I. :D

For our (Swiss) goddaughter's 15th birthday, we gave her a copies of Kerouac's "On The Road" and Simone de Beauvoir's "The Second Sex" in Italian. She loves "On The Road" and is pecking out her own novel now on a 1950s "Baby Hermes" manual typewriter. We're _horrid_ influences, aren't we? :rofl:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 05:34 PM
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19. Yes you certainly are
At fifteen she's old enough for a grown-up typewriter.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:36 PM
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33. cool!
Edited on Sun Feb-28-10 01:37 PM by tigereye
Love that you gave her Kerouac and The Second Sex, too! Quite a bit of disparity in tone, there! :D


:hi:

One of the coolest things I did when visiting SF the last few years was 1. go to City Lights! :woohoo: and 2. take the Beats tour through North Beach and then have a beer at Vesuvio! So cool. Skip the Beat Museum, though, waste of money. Better to just walk around with a guide book or guide.

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:58 PM
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36. very sweet. have you seen this:
THE POETABLE JACK KEROUAC

Poetic and musical celebration of Beat icon Jack Kerouac, an event honoring the publishing of Viking’s The Portable Jack Kerouac and Selected Letters. Hosted by longtime friend Allen Ginsberg and biographer Ann Charters, we are lavished with extensive readings and quotes from Kerouac’s many works and intimate letters. All-star performers include Maggie Estep, Ed Sanders, Lee Ranaldo, David Amram & Graham Parker. Poet Clark Coolidge has written an exquisite long poem in Jack’s honor & musician Dave Van Ronk croons an evocative road ballad. (2 hours, 1995)

http://poetswearprada.home.att.net/ThinAirVideo.html

love the URL name....


Ed Sanders lives!



"she wore a tiny pushup bra made from the eyelids of an elephant"

something like that
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 08:21 PM
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39. Thanks for the link!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:49 AM
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6. According to IMDB....
Edited on Sat Feb-27-10 03:51 AM by WCGreen
A film version of On the Road and The Big Dharma are in development.

Heart Beat, a movie staring John Heard, Sissy Spacek and Nick Nolte.

It's about the relationship between Kerouac and Cassidy.

I saw that one and it was all right...

Also, a good documentary I saw back in the 90's was "On the Road with Jack Kerouac: King of the Beats"

Here is a review from the NYT

http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/36302/On-the-Road-with-Jack-Kerouac-King-of-the-Beats/overview
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 02:10 AM
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22. Thanks. I'll try to see those.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 05:54 AM
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7. Because Hollywood doesn't want to deal with all the gay sex?
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 01:06 AM
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43. O who knows? Can't fathom what taboos they have now.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 08:10 AM
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8. Shia LaBeouf is being groomed for the role right now, as a matter of fact
And Jack Black is all set to play Allen Ginsberg in biopic currently targeted for an early 2012 release.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 08:11 AM
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9. I will want to see this for sure.
Thanks for the heads up, Orrex! :thumbsup:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 08:15 AM
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10. Jim Carrey will play Burroughs in a forthcoming action/comedy flick, too!
Watch for it!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 09:41 AM
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11. Peter Weller was in the film version of Naked Lunch....
Played the Burroughs charactor Bill Lee...
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 10:16 AM
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18. You'll do your best work on this machine.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 09:41 AM
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12. Peter Weller was in the film version of Naked Lunch....
Played the Burroughs charactor Bill Lee...
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 11:55 PM
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41. I almost bought that!!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:47 PM
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35. you can't be serious.....Jack Black as Ginsberg? Whatever on earth are they thinking?
and Shia who's it? saw him in one thing, and casting him in anything like this is like casting Tom Cruise as that vampire.

simply HORrible
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 02:25 PM
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38. oh....now I get it.....
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 09:54 AM
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14. There was. It was called Transformers 2
If you examine the plot lines of "On the Road" and Transformers 2 you will notice that they are the same. The writer/director is obviously a huge fan.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 09:58 AM
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15. There was "Beat" with Keifer Sutherland as Burroughs
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 10:12 AM
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16. Heartbeat from 1980 witth John Heard, Nick Nolte, Sissy Spacek
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 05:38 PM
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20. Just find the whiniest fuck in Hollywood and get him to play Kerouac
Jeff Goldblum comes to mind, but he's probably too old. Maybe this guy?



He played Claire Danes' boyfriend in My So-Called Life and he just with the black nail polish and eyeliner he looks like the kind of emo loser who'd kill himself at his own birthday party. AFTER getting a pony.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 02:13 AM
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23. Oh my. Not quite how the Beat Scene should play out!
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 06:22 PM
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21. What? BEATSTREET doesn't count?
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 02:14 AM
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24. Describe that one, si vous plais.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 12:59 PM
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30. that works for me!
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 02:36 AM
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26. There was a movie called "The Last Time I Committed Suicide" based on a Neal Cassady letter
It has Keanu Reeves as Neal Cassady. It's not great, but it's okay. I don't think Kerouac actually appears in it, except as the person Neal is writing to.

They've been trying to make On the Road into a movie for years, and there's another version in development now. Perhaps this one will fare better. There's also a movie ("Howl") in development about Ginsberg's obscenity trial after Howl. The guy playing Kerouac is not someone I'm familiar with.

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Mendocino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 12:40 PM
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28. Howl with James Franco as Allen Ginsburg
is in postproduction.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 12:58 PM
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29. "Put THIS in your pipe and smoke it!!"
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:20 PM
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31. Because boring and self-indulgent doesn't sell like it used to
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:20 PM
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32. Kerouac's my homeboy
I could play him! We grew up in the same neighborhood, both French-Canadian, I was a bookish kid who hung out at the Lowell library and read books, I used to write stories and poetry...hmmm...but I'm nowhere near as cool. And havent crisscrossed the country yet :shrug: Oh, and I'm not a religiously confused alcoholic. So...yeah maybe not!

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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 11:54 PM
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40. I have wanted to visit Kerouac's home town.
Thanks for the photo. I hadn't seen that in any of the Kerouac biographies I've read.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:44 PM
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34. 'These are The Subterraneans! Today's Young Rebels - Who live and love in a world of their own ....
Edited on Sun Feb-28-10 01:44 PM by Gabi Hayes
.....this is their story told to the hot rhythms of fabulous jazz!''

haaaaaaaa

get with it, hepcats:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054351/





BTW, anybody who doesn't dig On the Road, especially the scenes in which he describes listening to live music, is particularly L7.

check this CD if you can...my library has it: Kerouac reading his own material>>>

"Jack Kerouac Reads On the Road"
CD/813.54/KEROUAC,J


some of it is simply stunning ('Jazz of the Beat Generation'). some of it, not so much

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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 01:05 AM
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42. I'm so ancient I have an LP of that!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 02:10 PM
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37. The Beatniks of Greenwich Village, narrated by Jean Shepherd, ca. 1963:
Edited on Sun Feb-28-10 02:21 PM by Gabi Hayes
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