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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:39 PM
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Poll question: Which star epitomizes Rock Star Decadence best?








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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:54 PM
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1. Bowie from 74 to 77...he had the income, imagination, and predilections at the time...
One thing that is surprising
is how humble and self-effacing he still comes off during filmed interviews at the time. And that was at the height of his coke monsterdom. Amazing.

Honorable mention (because they could also afford more drugs than Reed and Iggy):
Jimmy Page
The Eagles

Courtney Love really is the last decadent rock star, but at this point in the game, "decadent rock star" is just meaningless. pointless,and played out.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:56 PM
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2. True about Courtney
And unlike the others, she has no talent. Never did, never will. Cobain ghost wrote most of the songs on her only good album (Live through This)
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:57 PM
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3. Grace Slick desreves a nod too.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:00 PM
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5. Yes, but was she truly decadent
She may have been decadence lite...10%...

But I doubt she ever had to shoot speed or heroin in their toes because she ran out of other spots... :evilgrin:
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:38 PM
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11. I remember reading an interview of her where she was photographed holding a...
...bottle of Jack with a straw in it.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:24 PM
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30. Courtney Love could beat that though - did an interview with the spike in her arm the whole time
Just plain forgot about it, not that it mattered, because she wasn't totally coherent anyway....
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:57 PM
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43. Grace Slick was just smarter than the cops who arrested her
Always, her arrests were for something snarky she said

She should be given a MEDAL for fucks sake!

And if I had Grace Slick for a daughter, I would be proud
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:59 PM
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4. I'm going with Lou Reed of the Rock and Roll Animal Period
when he did everything and everybody.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:06 PM
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6. Angie Bowie said that Reed was the most fey man she had ever met...
and that's really saying something

He is my favorite srtist (who isn't named Miles Davis), but Reed never seemed like he was having fun despite all that self indulgence. I dunno why.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:23 PM
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9. Jewish guilt, maybe.
Electroshock therapy might have taken a bit of a toll as well.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 03:18 PM
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14. I think those are both factors
In that period, he was really prone to yelling some variation of "You shut up!" at audience members. In a seemingly "female" voice. Makes me suspect that Lou heard that at home.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 04:27 PM
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Didn't his parents try to "shock the queer out of him" with EST?
And that Curt Wilde from Velvet Goldmine was partially based on him (that part, at least)
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 04:48 PM
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22. That is exactly what they tried to do
At that time, electroshock was considered to be a credible "cure" for homosexuality, alcoholism, depression, and other things. And his parents, being educated professional people, thought it was wise to listen to the experts.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 04:50 PM
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23. Jeez - I wouldn't smile anymore either
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 04:58 PM
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24. I'm sure that those experiences had much to do with his flintiness toward other people
When the people who are presumed to love you most in the world have electricity sent through your head in order to "fix" you, it's probably pretty hard to let your guard down with others.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:05 PM
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25. Totally. Like most Americans and humans for that matter, I gots Daddy issues
But fuck, that's just irreparable
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 04:27 PM
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20. DUPE
Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 04:27 PM by Taverner
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 04:26 PM
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19. Especially since Angie was wild and crazy herself
And yeah, I don't think I've ever seen Reed crack a smile
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:10 PM
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7. How did Cat Power end up on the list?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:21 PM
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8. Chan Marshall...she's the last seriously talented seriously doomed decadent rock goddess
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:29 PM
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10. Ronnie Wood.
I've read parts of his book. Lucky to be alive, that man.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 03:14 PM
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12. He's a perfect example of that saying "god looks out for fools and children"
In that book, he just comes off as an incredibly stupid man incapable of learning from his mistakes. He excels at self absorption, but possesses not a whit of self insight.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 03:16 PM
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13. Other: Sid.
First off, everyone on your list except Jim Morrison is still alive -- and if you're still pushing air through your teeth, you're not the best example of rock star excess. Plenty of other rock stars have ODed, but Sid Vicious is the only one who stabbed someone to death before he did so.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:18 PM
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27. Well, part of being truly decadent (as your avatar well knows) is being able to walk away from it
And choosing your own time of death (as St HST did)

If you die from decadence, then you were just a lightweight at the wrong time and place

But if you walk away, and then do it again, by Jove YOU'RE ONE DECADENT MUTHAFUCKA!
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 07:34 PM
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47. And as I well know too, for that matter. It's a good point. And by that rationale...
I'd have to go with Keith Richards, or maybe Ozzy Osbourne, if you can a call him "alive."
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 03:28 PM
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15. All Of The Above.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 06:10 PM
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46. Gets my vote.
;-)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 03:34 PM
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16. I would say it's a tie between Keith Moon and John Bonham
THat's my 2 cents.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 03:42 PM
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17. Keith Moon
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Quezacoatl Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 03:53 PM
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18. Elvis
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:08 PM
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26. Do the decadent shake Nixon's hand?
I THINK NOT!!!
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:29 PM
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32. If you're as stoned as the King was...
Decadent!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:34 PM
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34. If I had a chance to meet Nixon, during that time, I would have given him a brownie
Because, come on, that man's life was SCREAMING "GET ME HIGH!!!"

If Nixon had smoked pot, right now we'd be in Republican Underground.
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 04:33 PM
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21. Uriah Heep
Allegedly the band whose members were the inspiration for "Spinal Tap"

Female: Wendy O Williams

Male: Keith Moon
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:20 PM
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28. GG Allin.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:23 PM
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29. No that's self loathing and suicidal
Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 05:23 PM by Taverner
Whole different genre, whole different set of chords

:P

Not to say the genres don't overlap
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:28 PM
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31. Yer right.
Although I do demand that the definition of R&R decadance include that the person has died from it. I think of Keith Moon, not Hedonismbot :)
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:33 PM
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33. Sure, Keith Moon was decadent when it came to his whiskey
But was he SEXUALLY decadent?

Did he have a harem at home, waiting for and on him? (Brian Eno)

Did he have sex with anything that found its way into his life? (Lou Reed, David Bowie...too many to list)

Nah, he liked his Jesus Juice and Rye :)

Nothing wrong with that!
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:41 PM
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36. Ah. I don't pay much attention to "who whats who"...
:rofl:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:44 PM
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37. It's not who whats who but who whats what
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:52 PM
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40. Ah!
:toast:
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:34 PM
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35. Eh. Who the hell is letting her fur burger hang out.
That's pretty gross. And I have no idea who she is.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:45 PM
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38. Chan Marshall
AKA Cat Power

Probably the only voice with real soul still out there
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:51 PM
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39. Surprised you didn't mention Freddie Mercury.
Some of the parties he hosted are still considered epic.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:55 PM
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41. Yes he has the sexual decadence down, but not the pharmeceutical decadence
He was a pretty clean man, drug wise, as far as I understood
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:56 PM
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42. Really? Midgets serving cocaine from trays?
Sounds pretty damn decadent to me.

But then, to me, adding midgets to anything makes it decadent, so what do I know?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:58 PM
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44. Ahhh but did they have midget serving coke EVERY NIGHT?
Or better yet, did he ever hole up in an LA Bungalow surviving on nothing more than coke, milk and peppers? For a year?
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 06:00 PM
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45. I concede your point.
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