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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:04 AM
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Heidi Montag lists her cosmetic surgeries: Includes 'back scooping'. Really sad.
It's just sick the pressures on women to be unnatural looking.

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/04/06/2010-04-06_heidi_montag_reveals_she_also_had_her_back_scooped_during_her_plastic_surgery_sp.html

During a Monday morning appearance on Ryan Seacrest's radio show "On Air," the 23-year-old reality star said that in addition to famously getting a mini brow lift, Botox, nose job, fat injections in her cheeks and lips, a chin reduction, liposuction to her neck, her ears pinned back, buttocks augmentation, liposuction to her waist and thighs and a breast augmentation revision, she also "had my back scooped."

When asked to explain what a "back scoop" procedure entails, Montag replied, "I actually didn't know."

...

The busty blond also said that she "had my waist cinched in on both sides."

...

Thinking that she has "a great body now," Montag quickly discovered a few disadvantages to her newly-enhanced figure.

"I'm very weird about hugging people now – is very fragile," she said, adding that her size "E or F" breasts have also prohibited her to jog.

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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:08 AM
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1. "The pressures on women"??? puhlease....
The only pressure is in this kook's head. This woman appears to me to be addicted to surgery. To try to blame society for this woman's aberration is a case of attempting to divert guilt from where it belongs.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:10 AM
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2. Easy for a man to say...nt
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:13 AM
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3. That doesn't mean it isn't true.
Frankly, it's these media people who are creating the pressure. I suppose she is in the same position of insecurity as Judy Garland was.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:18 AM
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7. No one expects Mick Jagger, etc. to be good looking. nt
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:22 AM
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9. Lucky for him. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:25 AM
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10. More than luck. nt
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:27 AM
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12. Look, I'm not suggesting that it's fair or right or that there isn't a lot of...
...pressure on women. I know there is. I just don't think "you don't know because you're a man" is a valid argument. It's ad hominem and is designed to change the subject of the discussion.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:35 AM
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16. I think it's a valid take. I will say this - I think most of this pressure is created by women....
and not men, to be frank.

But it's not valid for whites to say when blacks should feel offended, just as it's not up to men to say when women should be offended.

I think you are correct that this woman is crazy. But beauty is rewarded. That the grammy awards were all old men and women under 30 just really got me to thinking about this.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:42 AM
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25. We were talking about pressure, not subjective offense.
And frankly you are selling us short. A lot of men do understand what you are talking about and agree. Anyway, while people have a right to be free from harassment and intimidation, I don't think anyone has a right to be free from a subjective feeling of offense. So I don't think that whites are necessarily excluded from a discussion on racism, for example.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:44 AM
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26. Well said.
I generally agree with what you say here.
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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:49 AM
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30. The Grammys??? I saw that a long time ago in movies...
When you've got Sean Connery, Mel Gibson, Harrison Ford ... all men in their 60s or later, you never see them coupled (pun intended) with a woman their age, it's always a women young enough to be their daughter. Or else the man is divorced, and the ex was written out of the flick a loooong time ago, and the only female available to be rescued is their granddaughter, or son's girl.

But all that aside, women will go to a man's movie, men won't usually go to a woman's movie unless dragged by their SO.

True story.. back in '98 I saw Sliding Doors, with Gwyneth Paltrow, in a local theater. I was alone, went to the noon showing on a Saturday, and I was the ONLY man in the theater, the rest were all women.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:59 AM
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32. Very true.
Edited on Tue Apr-06-10 12:41 PM by Captain Hilts
This was just a reminder.

Men follow 'women's' cultural offerings FAR less frequently than women will support those created by men. That's why of the top 15 all-time grossing film stars only ONE is a woman: Julia Roberts.

This is why over 75% of Disney's cartoon characters are male: young boys are more likely to watch movies featuring male characters than with female characters.

I'll also add that the BBC noticed that the top ten list of popular Britons was dominated by men and the UNpopular list was dominated by women.
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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:34 AM
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15. Nope....
Not as long as he's famous, a musician and has with lots of money, especially the last. He didn't have the big bucks and the fame, he would be just another Joe Smoe. It never ceases to amaze me how some people portray women as ALWAYS the victims of society, and men as the oppressors. As a man that shit gets old.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:36 AM
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17. No one here said men were the oppressors. In fact, I'd say the opposite.
Men just are beneficiaries.
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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:40 AM
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21. Right... the beneficiaries...
Of wealth and fame, IF you have those things. Otherwise, you're (not) screwed, unless of course you can sing.

As the late Richard Pryor once said "You had to sing to get some pussy."
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:16 AM
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4. I have to agree with him - there is no reason for any healthy 23 year old to have this much work
And I stress the word HEALTHY in the sense of physically healthy. I can appreciate that even for some healthy women there is a need to have some work done - I know of a girl who had very excessive breasts and wanted them reduced to save her crushing back pains.

Obviously there is something very mentally wrong with this Heidi chick to have so much work done. She was already a beautiful woman (at least on the outside anyways) and 10 years or so down the line she's going to regret much of this. Botox is a lifetime commitment that will eventually make her face almost emotionless (look at Nicole Kidman). And those oversize breasts will eventually take the toll on her scooped out back (whatever that is) to the point that they will cripple her. Was it worth it just to keep her in the limelight for a few extra minutes past her allotted 15 minutes - who knows.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:18 AM
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6. I agree. But the pressures on women to be totally fake looking are huge. No one
asks when Mick Jagger is going to have his makeover.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:29 AM
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14. That's only on a small group of women in this country
please don't lump 99% of the women out there with the 1% trying to maintain the limelight in whatever way they can.

Sure, we have other stresses - maintaining our weight and trying to keep as young as possible but most of those can be achieved without such mind-boggling tactics. Heidi Montag is a product of reality TV where she has no clue how to extend her celebrity status after the world is tired of her 'reality'.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:38 AM
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18. Women are all pressured to be decorative. Hey, I'm no oil painting...
and I've bailed on a lot of that. But being close to young girls in recent years has really underlined how much pressure they feel to be 'pretty'. It's so over-valued to young girls.

And it's primarily women that do it to other women.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:40 AM
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22. Yes but you can't compare that pressure to what Heidi has done
That's just out of the ordinary and probably some serious mental issues going on.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:46 AM
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27. Yes, she does.
But look at the HUGE 'beauty' industry and what it does to women and girls.

As I said somewhere else...look at the Grammy awards. It was all old men and young women under 30. Being young and pretty is where it's at.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 02:31 PM
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36. if that's what it takes to "look good,"
I'll keep my wrinkles & saggy butt, thanks kindly. the gray hair, otoh.....

What pressure was this TWENTY THREE year old under to get all this work done? She may have an ugly personality, but she was pretty already. If some woman is worried about crows' feet at 23, might I suggest she needs to have her head examined.

dg
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:17 AM
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5. Maybe she means this...
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:19 AM
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8. Ewww....
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:52 AM
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31. thank you for the link...
Edited on Tue Apr-06-10 11:52 AM by Tuesday Afternoon
"This surgery doesn't remove back fat. Liposuction is still the number one way to remove pockets of unwanted fat in any area of the body, including back fat.
Ideal candidates for the bra-line back lift are those with sagging skin caused by aging, sun exposure or massive weight loss such as that which occurs after bariatric surgery. While it is not for women only, men do not tend to develop sagging skin or back fat rolls from aging and sun exposure at the same rate as women do. Men may benefit from the new bra-line back lift if they have lost a significant amount of weight, but the fact that the scar may be hidden under a bra or bathing suit is not as much of a selling point for a man."

why, at the age of 23 and no history of obesity, did Heidi think she needed this procedure? and Why would any self respecting Plastic Surgeon perform it on her?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 06:16 PM
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39. That was a terrificly gruesome video
:o
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:27 AM
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11. wow. she's going to be a mess in 10 years
or less.

Considering what people who've had a lot of plastic surgery look like in later years...

She seriously needs professional help to deal with her issues. This is, IMO, not just a matter of the pressure on women (though that certainly exists), but is due to her own issues.

The fact that she'd have a procedure done that she doesn't even know what it was is very telling.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:28 AM
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13. She needs to accept that she will not always be rich and famous...
...and realize that these procedures will not keep her so.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:39 AM
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19. They'll probably make her FAR worse off. nt
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:42 AM
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24. Ironic that she's a republican and doesn't support HCR
which I hope she has good insurance to cover the serious medical issues she will be dealing with in 10 years.

And once you start botoxing your face on a regular basis, you can't stop doing that. It's a lifetime commitment.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:39 AM
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20. She already looks way older than 23.
She needs therapy, poor thing!
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:40 AM
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23. Don't mistake a celebrity for a woman.
Edited on Tue Apr-06-10 11:40 AM by Orsino
Generally, women face a whole range of problems that celebrities don't need to worry about.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 12:04 PM
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33. Well, yeah, indeed I do "face a whole range of problems that celebrities don't need to worry about"
but the pressure to 'look nice' is one that I share with them.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 01:04 PM
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34. I would say that those pressures are qualitatively different.
Since the incomes involved are orders of magnitude apart.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 02:35 PM
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37. All those make-up counters in every drug or department store aren't for celebrities. nt
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 05:53 PM
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38. No, but the near-requisite (for celebrities) cosmetic surgery is a world apart from us.
Sure. Any woman may feel a lot of pressure to look her best, but celebrities (of both sexes) pay doctors a premium to look like our ideal of gods.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:48 AM
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28. If the ability to do it exists
someone will do it. Then someone will do it to excessive levels. She just happened to be one of the people in the right/wrong place, at the right/wrong time.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:48 AM
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29. "Ms. Montag? This is the operator...
"...your fifteen minutes are up.

Please deposit $10,000..."

:eyes:
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 01:15 PM
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35. She should get a brain implant next time.
And it's not just women under pressure. Guys are just as bad getting pumped up on steroids.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 06:20 PM
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40. "Back scoop procedure"
is the 5th most popular google search in the past hour.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 08:59 PM
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41. You're kidding....I fear not...nt
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