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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 06:44 AM
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Darn. My cat is not the touchy, feely type. Because she's female?
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 06:50 AM by Skip Intro



Oh, she'll let me pet her, when she wants to be petted, usually on my desk right in front of the keyboard when I'm online.

And she'll snuggle for like 2 1/2 minutes when I'm laying on the couch watching tv.

She absolutely hates being picked up and held.

But she must, must be in the same room as me, always at a distance.

I think she must have been feral at some point. She was adopted in the last stages of kittenhood. I don't know her full history, other than she was kept in a cage for some time before I got her.

I waited over a year after my last cat died before I got another one.

He loved to be held. Would make a home on my lap for hours. This one, not so much.

I'm wondering if it's the gender difference, maybe female cats aren't as lovey dovey as the males?

She's still a sweetie though, wouldn't trade her for the world. Well, maybe for a million dollars (insert pinky into corner of mouth). But I do wish she were just a tad more affectionate.

I'll be adopting a young male kitty from a shelter soon. I'll make sure he's younger so she won't be threatened. I hope that he brings her down off her perch a little, makes her more friendly, and doesn't make her jealous.

Bla bla bla. DU, sometimes I talk too much...
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 06:57 AM
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1. Cats are not lap cushions , they are individuals ! that is why I love them !
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 07:02 AM
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2. They definitely have their own personalities. This is the first standoffish one
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 07:03 AM by Skip Intro

I've ever encountered, though.

Except for, one a friend had who would hide behind the curtains and hiss, and one another friend had who would hiss if you tried to pet her. Both females.

This is my first female cat. Hard not to think it's not something gender-related.

Don't get me wrong, I love my little girl. She just doesn't seem to love me back much...
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:35 PM
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21. She wants to be in the room with you -- I think that's a clear message.
Some cats aren't lap cats. Some are. She sounds pretty affectionate to me, just not a lap cat.
FWIW, the only cat that I've known who would hiss at you if you tried to pet it was a male.
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 05:09 PM
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29. Oh, mine shure as hell is lap fungus!!!
But that's cuz she's a Bombay...seriously, I got her at the shelter and she's listed as a black shorthair mix, but once I started doing research, I understood what I had. They're notorious for being the most affectionate, lap sitting, playful cats around so if that's what you want, I recommend that breed. Many of them are on Petfinder, and I think the males are even more affectionate than the females.

But beware! My Miss Patty is 12 years old and demands you to play with her like she's a kitten. These are not low-maintenance cats you can just forget about when you have other things to do.

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Betty88 Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 07:21 AM
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3. We have 2 boys and a girl
The girl sounds like yours, will let you know when she wants love and when she has had enough.

The boys never have enough, hum sounds familiar. Either one will sit in my lap for hours. I have had more boy cats over the years than girl cats. Each has its own personality but I find in general the boys want more mommy time than the girls.
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 07:22 AM
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4. Evie wants to be petted forever, but only in the morning and at night
Picked up? Not so much. She won't fight, but the scimitar claws come out. very. slowly.

Neutrino will come by when she wants to be petted, but turns into a wild raging ball o'claws if you try to pick her up - unless it's at breakfast. Does lap cat when she feels like it, and since she only weighs 7 pounds, it's nice.

Socrates doesn't mind being picked up, but he weighs 25 pounds, so I mind :P. He'll stand for a brushing for hours if he's in the right mood. No lap cat he, not since he was about 2 years old - he's 9.

Quark has scratchdar - if he senses another cat is getting petted, he's rouse himself from a coma (and from the other end of the house if necessary) to come get petted. Picking him up is a bit iffy. Good lap cat though.

Plato is the oddest of the horde when it comes to petting. He'll sit next to you for hours, but if you touch him, ZING! he's gone. And picking him up can be dangerous if he's not in the mood - he weighs 19 pounds and thrashes like someone 20 times bigger. :D

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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 08:10 AM
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5. Gender has nothing to do with it.
I have two females that are SUPER affectionate. Both will sit on me, on my lap sleep touching me. Both will let me hold them (at least for a minute or two). In fact if I don't pay enough attention to them they will paw/claw at me. They were feral kittens but I got them young and I worked hard on socializing them. I suspect thats why your cat is like that, that she was feral but not socialized well. The cage thing makes the case for that argument. Its also possible she'll grow friendlier as she gets older. Keep working on it. Cats can change even after kittenhood
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 08:23 AM
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6. She has changed a little since I got her.
She will rub against me, a lot now, and let me pat her back and loosely hold her tail as she passes by.

Yeah, the cage thing. The guy I got her from kept her in a cage indoors because he had two big dogs, so she was kept there for her safety. He said he had found her under his house. When I got her, she was in that phase of not a kitten, not yet a full grown cat.

She's more friendly than she was then, but every now and then I get the urge to pick her up, and she will stand it for a second or two, and then it's time to dress my wounds.

I think you're right, though, because she absolutely must be in the same room that I'm in. When I'm watching tv in the living room (what a weird name for a room), she sits high atop the cat tree I had for my last cat, and watches me. When I'm on the computer, in a different room (gotta put the computer in the same room as the tv at some point), she's on the floor nearby. Moves from room to room with me. But she is more social than when I got her. So maybe it is a socialization in progress?

I hope the new cat will be a good thing for her. It will at least give her someone more fun to play with than my sedentary self, lol.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 09:02 AM
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7. LOL!
"She will stand for it for a second or two, and then it's time to dress my wounds."

:rofl:

Cats are all different. We have four right now.

Angel, a shelter rescue, loves to be held...but ONLY in the bathroom. :eyes: She likes to nurse on my ear lobe in there, too.

Molly, an abandoned kitten we found on our front porch - and promptly adopted - hates to be held, but loves to sleep next to me. She purrs constantly, too. SO CUTE.

Sweetie, we rescued her from behind a building where I used to work, tolerates being held. Never cuddles. She is the 'loner' of the bunch.

And Muffin (my namesake), is a shelter rescue. She LOVES being held and she would cuddle all day if I'd let her. And I have to hold her in my arms when we sleep. AWWW.

I just love cats, don't you? I think it's great that she just loves being in the same room with you...just to know you're there, and all is right with her world.


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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 09:16 AM
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8. Hehehe. It's true.
Yeah, I do love cats.

You know the thing with this one, and I hadn't even thought to mention it in this thread 'till now? I'm allergic to her. I have to wash my hands after petting her, otherwise I'll sneeze my head off. Maybe she's from the Queen of Hearts court, lol ("off with their heads!") It's just not that big a deal to me now, though it was when I first got her.

I love the little thing, and yeah, it is cool to me that she has to be nearby. My fist cat, I'd have to look high and low for him sometimes, but this one is always just a glance away, watching, waiting?

I always remember when I was a kid, at at my grandma's house, she always had a cat or two around. And I remember laying on her bed, with the cat, and staring into it's eyes, and it staring into mine, for what seemed like an eternity. Some connection there, a deep connection - can't describe it and it never really happened with my current cat or the last one, but with that cat, wow. I'd tell it that I knew something wonderful lay beyond it's eyes, tell it that I knew it was more than just some pet. I dunno, but I've always liked cats ever since. Come to think of it, that was a female cat, a grey and white tabby. Hmmm....

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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 09:38 AM
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11. Yep. It sounds like progress
Just be aware that adding another cat can be difficult at times so its possible you will see her take a few steps back at first. But be patient.
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phasma ex machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 02:57 PM
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23. +1 "then it's time to dress my wounds."
A feral two year old male just played my wife and me. We named him Noir because he was blackish and acted scared of his own shadow.

Then one day he starts getting as friendly as a female in heat. So we trap him and take him to the Vet for shots and spaying. Only the Vet says that she is a he. The Vet also disapproves of our trap and proclaims Noir one of the friendliest felines on earth. We feel guilty for ever doubting Noir. Until the day that Noir turns ugly vicious in a flash.

So it turns out that Noir is actually his second name. His first name being Psychocat because he plays people by Ted Bundying them into feeling sorry for him before he turns on them.

The Naming Of Cats

The Naming Of Cats is a difficult matter,
It isn't just one of your holiday games;
You may think at first I'm as mad as a hatter
When I tell you, a cat must have THREE DIFFERENT NAMES.
First of all, there's the name that the family use daily,
Such as Peter, Augustus, Alonzo or James,
Such as Victor or Jonathan, George or Bill Bailey--
All of them sensible everyday names.
There are fancier names if you think they sound sweeter,
Some for the gentlemen, some for the dames:
Such as Plato, Admetus, Electra, Demeter--
But all of them sensible everyday names.
But I tell you, a cat needs a name that's particular,
A name that's peculiar, and more dignified,
Else how can he keep up his tail perpendicular,
Or spread out his whiskers, or cherish his pride?
Of names of this kind, I can give you a quorum,
Such as Munkustrap, Quaxo, or Coricopat,
Such as Bombalurina, or else Jellylorum--
Names that never belong to more than one cat.
But above and beyond there's still one name left over;
And that is the name that you never will guess;
The name that no human research can discover--
But THE CAT HIMSELF KNOWS, and will never confess.
When you notice a cat in profound meditation,
The reason, I tell you, is always the same:
His mind is engaged in a rapt contemplation
Of the thought, of the thought, of the thought of his name:
His ineffable effable
Effanineffable
Deep and inscrutable singular Name.

--T.S. Eliot, "The Naming Of Cats"
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 09:33 AM
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9. It's a personality thing, not a gender thing. Some cats are more affectionate than others.
My current kitty loves to be petted when she picks the time and occassion. If I try to pet her when she's not ready, she simply walks away. Sometimes she wants to curl up in my lap and sometimes she's content to lay at the other end of the couch.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 09:37 AM
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10. Some cats are assholes.
I wouldn't put the behavior down to a gender issue; I've had affectionate cats both male and female.

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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 09:39 AM
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12. Heh.
Yeah, I think you are the local expert on Asshole cats! :P
In this case I think its just a poorly socialized cat...:hi:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 10:01 AM
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13. My girl is very touchy feely.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 10:06 AM
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14. We have one like that. After 7 years she is a bit friendlier
I think it is due to which side of their heads they landed on when they are born.
Cats are just strange.
We used to have one that just seemed to hate us. Hell, she hated anything living. Cats, dogs, birds ......
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 10:44 AM
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15. My girl is very affectionate
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 10:46 AM by Rob H.
She likes to curl up in my lap when I'm watching TV, reading, on the computer, whatever, and wants to be in whatever room I'm in. (She even waits patiently in the bathroom and dozes on the bath mat while I'm in the shower!) She also likes to sleep so that she's touching me--not so much now that it's really warm out, but I did wake up this morning with her curled up resting her head on my left arm as if it were a pillow. :)

Give her some time and try to pet and handle her as much as you can. We once adopted a cat who some juvenile delinquents stuffed into a bag and then set the bag on fire, so she was missing about a third of her tail and she used to hide under my bed all day when we first brought her home. When I'd get home from school, I'd coax her out and pet her and play with her just so she knew that she was safe and she eventually realized that no one was going to hurt her again and was a lot more social after that. She lived to the ripe old age of 20.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 10:52 AM
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16. that sounds just like my Lilith
and I have had her since birth (almost) It is just the way she is , and I love her for who she is--a Calico Queen who allows me to feed her and clean her litterbox

Her litter mate Mandu is a luv bug . He loves to be petted.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:24 AM
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17. The meanest cat in the world is sitting right next to me
We got her when she was a wee kitten. We loved her and petted her and treated her like a princess. She began to turn on us when she was about six months old. She would just attack my daughter for no reason - run across the room to glom onto her leg or arm and bite like she was fighting for her life. And yet, the darn thing slept in my daughter's bed every night.

My daughter has gone off to live her life and now it's just mean kitty and me. I can pet her and scratch her for just a few seconds before I have to stop because I know she's about to bite. I've got fresh wounds from her most recent attack. Yet she sleeps next to me every night and there she lays, not a foot away from me as I type.

I don't understand it. I gave up trying to understand it. I love her but she is the meanest cat who ever lived.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:03 PM
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18. one of my girls was a truly cranky bitch for about 8 years ...
in her old age she has mellowed, but I don't think she has EVER sat on my lap. She'll lie next to me, but rarely. The thing that mellowed her out considerably, aside from age, was the introduction of three (female - don't think gender matters when they're so small) kittens to us by their mommacat.

We kept all four - momma and her babies - and Clarisse (bitchcat) HATES Novi (momma) but LOVED the kittens, and has remained friends with them as they've grown into adult females. Could be a very good idea to get a young male.

Novi is the most affectionate creature in the universe, and she's female. One of her kittens is incredibly standoffish unless affection is her idea, but her two sisters are affectionate.

Now, my late beloved TommyCat, a big ole' neutered orange tabby, was the most affectionate cat. He was wonderful. He was my baby ... loved him so much.

We have another neutered male, Ivan, who can be affectionate, but he was abused before we got him and the wrong move can make him bite (though he's mellowed considerably in the last few years as he trusts us more).

I think neutered males tend to be the mellowest.

Good luck! I miss having a lap kitty, too.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:19 PM
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19. I have been employed by many many cats throughout my life.
I currently work for seven of them, males and females, in all categories of feralness. I can confidently assert, without fear of contradiction, that no two cats in the world are the same. Make that no two cats in the universe.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:16 PM
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20. We have two females
and they love nothing more than to climb all over us and snuggle. :shrug:
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 02:01 PM
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22. It just takes time. Give kitty a while and she will become more
affectionate.
You have to be careful not to get angry with her. And also not to bump or step on her. They see that as abuse.
I have moved without looking first once or twice and whacked my cat. They don't like that.
It takes time and you win their confidence.
I had to put my cat on my lap many times over a period of years. Now, it is his favorite spot. He expects me to sit all day long so he can sit and sleep, and basically live on my lap.
But initially, years ago, when he was young, he wouldn't stay on the lap at all.
dc
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 03:02 PM
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24. I had an adopted cat that started out like that
She was the most aloof cat I'd ever met, not at all interested in being picked up or held or petted.

But over time, that totally changed. She morphed into the most wonderful affectionate cat in the world.

Just give her time and space, she'll come around.
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 03:10 PM
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25. My sister thinks the females are more standoffish as a rule
because they take care of the babies and just are more cautious. However, much depends on personality. I had one cat, my all time favorite, Zoe. She would lay on my lap and sleep on my stomach most of the night. I still miss her. She was an exception--most of my female cats, while loving and affectionate, have not been real lap cats.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 04:09 PM
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26. My generalizations: Males tend to be more big lovebugs, but if a female bonds with you, it's intense
I've had a handful of girl kitties over the years who have decided that I am their mother cat figure. I don't know how to put it other than they worshipped me. They'd follow me around, sleep in my hair, squint at me with love, etc. Currently, I've got a 17 1/2 year old girl kitty who fits that description. It is heart-melting. The boys tend to be more generally and non-discriminatoryily (sp?) friendly.
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kimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 09:00 PM
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32. Yeah, that's been my experience too
The guys give their love wholeheartedly, the girls, well, you have to earn it. But when it's earned, the girl cats adore you for life!
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 04:48 PM
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27. All four of my cats are female, I call one of them velcro cat, she's so clingy.
The other three will accept cuddling on their own terms, when they're in the mood. FWIW, the other three are all a good bit smarter, and I think that the two traits are not entirely unrelated. I suspect that Piglet, aka velcro cat, is related to herself. She's a bit slow, so she's not so great at amusing herself.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 04:56 PM
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28. My cats don't jump in my lap,
but they do love to play in plastic bags and laundry hampers. If I lift the bag or hamper onto my lap while they're in them, they're quite happy to stay there.

The male cat loves to jump in a plastic shopping bag which I pick up and swing around slowly. So it's not that they hate to be picked up and carried- they just don't like to be enclosed in arms.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 07:35 PM
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30. We have eight kitties, and some of the boys are shyer than the girls.
Missy, the grey longhair in my sigline, loves to be rubbed by anyone, but especially men. She loves the boys.

The tux, Mu, needs to be close to me, wherever I am. He sleeps at the foot of my bed with me every night.

Their mama, who was a feral cat for six years living under our deck, was taken in by us last winter. We got her shots, and spayed, and for a long time she stayed under my bed all day, only venturing out at night. The only person that could touch her was me.

Now she comes out, and will cautiously scope out the room, and if your hand isn't busy, she puts her head under it until you scratch her ears. She loves being rubbed up, but by no means is she a lap cat. She will sit right at your feet, close enough, but she still doesn't like being held. She'll squirm, and put her teeth on you, not biting, but you get the message.

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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 08:41 PM
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31. Well, I've only ever had one cat, and that's my Bombay I mentioned earlier
So I'm sure all the other posters are far better versed in feline personality. But I discovered one inviolate rule straight away: It's Kitty's world. We just live in it.

I learned the first day never to force anything on Miss Patty: if she wanted love she came to me for it, I couldn't approach her like I'd done all my dogs and expect her to follow my lead. It was an interesting adjustment for me, from the canine to the feline, but I've found I love them both and wouldn't want my cat to be slavishly at my beck and call.

Someone explained the dif like this:

Your dog looks at you and says: She feeds me, gives me shelter, takes care of all my needs. She must be a Goddess.

Your cat looks at you and says: She feeds me, gives me shelter, takes care of all my needs. I must be a Goddess.
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 09:19 PM
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33. Years ago, I adopted a pitch-black skinny little female cat from a shelter.
It seems she had horrible experiences behind her - the kind black cats often endure.

There was no way Layla would let me touch her for nearly a year. Then, slowly, slowly, she would come closer... but always "in tandem" with Mosche the Cat. Never alone. I would stroke Mosche, and run my fingers across her back at the same time. This exercise was repeated time after time for months.

And then, one day, I was lying on the sofa, relaxing. Suddenly, there she was... tiptoeing across my stomach, then there was her little nose making contact with mine. Ever so slowly I lifted my hand to caress her back. And then, THERE WAS THE FIRST PURR.

It brought tears of joy to my eyes, let me tell you. This sign of trust and enjoyment. Layla never became a lap sitter or a cat who wanted to be picked up and cuddled. But on her own terms, in her own time, she loved to be loved.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 09:51 PM
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34. I adopted a female cat in the late stages of kittenhood to and she hates
to be held. I have another female I got at 8 weeks old and though she doesn't like to be held (she squiggles out) she does cuddle and purr. I think she just likes control.
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