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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 12:29 AM
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Poll question: Is old C& W better then modern country?
I prefer the music of artists such as Johnny Cash, Tex Ritter, Johnny Horton, Hank Williams, Sons of the Pioneers, Patsy Cline, Marty Robbins, and such to what is being produced today.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 12:41 AM
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1. the new commercial stuff blows...but there is an underground sound and scene
if you know where to look.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 01:12 AM
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2. How old, and are you talking about the stuff that still gets played or all the old junk, too?
I mean, "Old" can mean Bob Wills and Hank Williams, Sr, or it can mean Cash and Jones and Cline, or it can be Dolly Loretta and Waylon and Willie, or it can be Kenny Rogers, or it can be the Young Country movement of the 90s, which produced some of the best acts country has ever had (Garth Brooks, Trisha Yearwood, Martina McBride, Patty Loveless, Dwight Yoakum, Chris Ledoux, Lyle Lovett, Mary-Chapin Carpenter, Alan Jackson, Clint Black...)

All of those eras also produced a lot of crap that no one remembers, so there's a filter effect going on.

COuntry goes through stages more than most other genres. They have periods of groundbreaking genius, then the executives realize profits are up and start hiring any hat-head they can find, and they saturate the market with formulaic crap, and everyone goes away, and eventually the suit guys stop hiring hat guys, and a new crop of talent is able to get a foot in the door, and it starts over.

Right now it's mostly mired in a dip, although there are some interesting acts out there. Rascal Flatts, Keith Urban (sometimes), Jack Ingram, and a few others are playing with the boundaries of country. None are brilliant, IMHO, though the Rascal Flatts singer has a hell of a voice, but at least there is something beyond the Brad Paisley crowd to hear.

I don't know if many from this era will become legends of Waylon and Willie status, though. The mid 80s were like that. The 2000s are like that. We're waiting on the next Outlaw, or the next Young Country, or whatever the next wave will be.

By the way, it was Waylon's birthday yesterday. For my money, he should have gotten all the fame that Johnny Cash got at the end. He had the interesting life (flipping a coin with the Big Bopper for the last seat on the Buddy Holly plane, for instance), the drug addiction, the longtime leather and lace romance (Stevie Nix claimed the song "leather and lace" was inspired by him and Jessie), the great voice (better than Johnny's but non-country fans don't realize that), and arguably a better guitar. Problem was, Waylon never got religion. He accused Johnny of selling out to religion, and he never, as far as I can tell, recorded a gospel song. The only religious imagery in his lyrics were negative, usually about human frailty and ironic religious references, like "Broken Promiseland." I loved Cash, and I'm glad one of them got the attention. I just think Waylon should have gotten some love.

Just for the fun of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnEtRUcKGwc (There's some mad greatness on that stage.)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 04:52 AM
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3. WAY better
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 06:16 AM
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4. There really isn't C&W music anymore because it is country pop.
There are lots of country musicians who are really rock musicians but need a job.

Country music today has no country soul.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 06:55 AM
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5. Nashville Pop: Sheena Easton with a steel guitar
And a bunch of goobers doing Jimmy Buffet quasi-covers
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 07:16 AM
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6. Some of the old stuff was great - up to the '60's or so. The only C&W I listen to
is the stuff that sounds like the old stuff, like Dwight Yoakam...

The one C&W song we did regularly in my old band was,
"Lonesome Fugitive", by Merle Haggard. Loved the guitar on it.

mark
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 08:32 AM
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7. C&W died when it went pop - think Ricky Scaggs. It has just gotten worse from there.
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