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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 08:57 AM
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"I-Write-Like" site "errupts online, authors scratch heads" - (only 50 authors in the cache)
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100716/ap_en_ot/us_web_i_write_like

I Write Like erupts online, authors scratch heads


.... Though the site might seem the idle dalliance of an English professor on summer break, it was created by Dmitry Chestnykh, a 27-year-old Russian software programmer currently living in Montenegro. Though he speaks English reasonably well, it's his second language. ....

Chestnykh modeled the site on software for e-mail spam filters. This means that the site's text analysis is largely keyword based. Even if you write in short, declarative, Hemingwayesque sentences, its your word choice that may determine your comparison.

Most writers will tell you, though, that the most telling signs of influence come from punctuation, rhythm and structure. I Write Like does account for some elements of style by things such as number of words per sentence.

Chestnykh has uploaded works by about 50 authors — three books for each, he said. That, too, explains some of its shortcomings. Melville, for example, isn't in the system. ....

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JTG of the PRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:12 AM
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1. It said I write like Stephen King, Dan Brown, and David Foster Wallace based on 3 writing samples.
:shrug:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 01:37 PM
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2. That David Foster WALLACE dude seems to be very popular with that program
I have NO earthly idea who he is and don't even feel like lifting a fingertip to Google or Wiki him. No doubt, I am probably offending somebody or scores of posters will be either scandalized at my ignorance or validated in their preconceived belief in my ignorance.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 03:16 PM
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3. Actually it's amusing to DFW fans...
because his writing was all over the place stylistically and in terms of quality. If I gave you a copy of his long-novel Infinite Jest, his book of essays The Broom of the System and a collection of his journalism work all without covers you wouldn't believe the same person wrote all three.

Despite a deep catalog of experimental, absurdist writing which was exceedingly bright and optimistic in tone, Wallace was a lifelong sufferer of severe depression who committed suicide, seemingly without cause, just as his career was starting to take off.

I'd suggest reading Infinite Jest, it may be the best 1000pg. novel written in the last 20 years.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 06:20 PM
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4. Thanks for the straightforward reply. So the 3 pieces you cite are so different -- is that why the
"I Write Like ___" program tells so many people he's the one for (many) them?!1
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 07:35 PM
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5. Possibly...
but I think a larger part of it was that those people are bad writers.

He was experimental as a writer, part of that was a belief that literature should not be linear in structure. (He liked to joke that readability was the only reason he didn't intentionally put words in the wrong sentence order. He liked footnotes because they interrupted the flow of reading...he meant them to be read as breaks in the narrative and some of the ones in Infinite Jest are utterly tangential and run pages in length.) Unless you're a pretty great writer, it's kind of hard to emulate any of that without writing badly. As my college creative writing professor told us, "rules exist for bad writers". Wallace didn't write within the rules, no matter what it was he was working on.

Also, a correction...A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again was the essay collection. Broom of the System was a novella. I get them confused because I read them back-to-back in one sitting one afternoon...neither one is very long.

I don't feel that I'm answering or explaining any of this very well. I've included two samples of his writing to show what I cannot. They're both journalism pieces so they're not as different as I'd like but I could not find a book excerpt for Infinite Jest.

The String Theory

By David Foster Wallace

Originally published in the July 1996 issue of Esquire

When Michael T. Joyce of Los Angeles serves, when he tosses the ball and his face rises to track it, it looks like he’s smiling, but he’s not really smiling -- his face’s circumoral muscles are straining with the rest of his body to reach the ball at the top of the toss’s rise. He wants to hit it fully extended and slightly out in front of him -- he wants to be able to hit emphatically down on the ball, to generate enough pace to avoid an ambitious return from his opponent. Right now, it’s 1:00, Saturday, July 22, 1995, on the Stadium Court of the Stade Jarry tennis complex in Montreal.

Read more: http://www.esquire.com/features/sports/the-string-theory-0796#ixzz0tzLu7EvL


Consider the Lobster

By David Foster Wallace

Originally published in the August 2004 issue of Gourmet

Tourism and lobster are the midcoast region’s two main industries, and they’re both warm-weather enterprises, and the Maine Lobster Festival represents less an intersection of the industries than a deliberate collision, joyful and lucrative and loud. The assigned subject of this article is the 56th Annual MLF, July 30 to August 3, 2003, whose official theme was “Lighthouses, Laughter, and Lobster.” Total paid attendance was over 80,000, due partly to a national CNN spot in June during which a Senior Editor of a certain other epicurean magazine hailed the MLF as one of the best food-themed festivals in the world.

Read more: http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000s/2004/08/consider_the_lobster
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 09:53 PM
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6. "those people are BAD WRITERS"!1 ---WHOA!1 *I* am not the one who said that, you peeps!1 n/t
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 07:46 AM
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9. No, you didn't.
I'll take all the heat for that one. It's the same answer I got from that website so I'll say I'm one of them even...if I was a good writer, I would be writing books instead of lecturing community center classes on creative writing and working in a bank.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 11:21 AM
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10. Haha, you know I'm fondly playing with you, correct?!1 n/t
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SunnySong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:45 AM
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8. Thats who I got and yes I have no idea who he is. nt
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Z_I_Peevey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 07:04 PM
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12. David Foster Wallace was my result as well,
through four separate submissions from three wildly different works, and I was quite pleased. Knew who he was. And while I may not be a famous writer, I know I'm a good enough one. So there.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 09:58 PM
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7. I thought it was obvious - test it with samples by famous authors

I uploaded stuff by a variety of authors and it didn't think they wrote like themselves.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 06:41 PM
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11. Cory Doctorow.
Never heard of him.
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