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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 06:38 PM
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Good ol' drug music
Edited on Sun Jul-18-10 06:40 PM by Bluzmann57
Kingfish, "Goodbye Yer Honor".

Livin' undercover in Turlock California
Hidin' from the boys in blue
Just got caught with 14 tons of pot,
Nailed by a narc named Sue.... Goodbye yer honor

I have no clue whether this is available on youtube and I don't care. I'm listening to the long playing record album. 33 1/3 rpms of rebel music. The band is remanants of New Riders of the Purple Sage and sounds damn good. I also don't have a clue as to what ever happened to them. I do know a search proved little. It doesn't matter. I'll just listen and enjoy.
Dave Torbert died in 1982. He was a main ingredient in this band.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 06:43 PM
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1. "Hypnotized" is Bob Weirs best recorded riff..
Actually this band is not remnants of the NRPS but included Bob Weir (Grateful Dead) Matt Kelly (old GD family harp player) Robbie Hottinot (guitar) and others. More known as a Dead offshoot band, it was Bob's first band out of the GD.

The album is on Round records, the Dead's ill fated record company venture.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 07:01 PM
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2. The lp I am holding in my hands is on Jet Records
And the original lineup is as follows.
Dave Torbert- Lead vocals, Bass, Guitar
Matthew Kelly- Guitar, harp, vocals
Robbie Hoddonoit- Lead Guitar
Chris Herold- Drums, vocals
Bob Weir- Guitar, vocals
The album is entitled, "Live 'n' Kickin' and was put out in 1977.
Real good stuff.
Better than the Dead, imo. I always thought they were a bit overrated. You want the original, and still the best, jam band, look south toward Georgia. Allman Brothers.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 07:16 PM
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3. I think that "Jet records"must have bought that album...
I had it once and I know it was not on jet. I don't think it was on Round either (the live one is not the one I was talking about, I was referring to the studio album).

Dave Torbert was in the NRPS but Kingfish was pretty much Bob and Matt's baby. Until Matt had an onstage meltdown and tried to fight everyone at a show in Tahoe round about 76 or so...

And better than the Dead? WOW. Seriously. Wow.(mental note to self: find out what kind of droogs bluzeman57 is taking.

The original jambands were the jazz guys like Bird and Coltrane and Miles Davis and Ornette Coleman. those guys took the music out there when it had never been done before. The Dead and the Allmans both took that jazz sense of improv and exploratory music to the rock audience....The one thing though, the ABB had some pretty awful years. there for a very long time (some say since about 75 and the big drug thing)until Derek Trucks joined (and Dicky's bi-polar, junky, drunk ass being kicked out of the band)they were pretty weak. They hhd the occasional moments (the Warren and Dicky thing could be pretty awesome)but for the most part they played the same songs, the same way every night. (they still do a lot of that).

the Dead nnver played the same song the same way or two nights in row (past about 76 or so). So it was more of an in the moment thing. And the GD's song catalog is so much deeper than the ABB's.

Not trying to bust down the ABB, I love them and have seen them over the yearss about 100 times, including a few times with members so the grateful dead jamming with them. they are brothers in music.....
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 07:51 PM
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4. United Artists distributed the lp
And I stand by my statement that Kingfish was better than the Dead. I never really fell for the Dead. Talented musicians, but just not exactly my cup of tea, so to speak. And by jam bands, I meant Rockin' Blues type of bands, such as the Dead and the ABB.
Yeah the ABB hit a low point in the mid 70's, with the drug thing and Cher poisoning Gregg Allman's ability. But I still think they were better than the Dead. You have your opinion, I have mine. I prefer Southern Rock which is Blues based, you prefer something else. It's all good. Peace and Blues to ya.
And among the best "jam bands" out there now is Government Mule. I saw them a couple of months ago and it was one of the best shows I have seen in many a year. If you get a chance, see them. It will be worth the money.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:02 PM
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5. I saw Gov't Mule and the ABB and Widespread Panic all
This summer at Jazzfest. I was at the Deepest End show in New Orleans. I ahve seen the ABB about a hundred times. I have a great political story that Gregg and Dicky shared with me and trey Anastasio (Phish)at Laguna Seca in 93. they told me the whole deal about Cher and the bust and the rat out etc and how it was a ll a political plot to keep the ABB from hooking up with jimmy Carter and get out the vote. they told me the CIA set them up.

Then they referred to the same thing going on at the time with the GD and how the DEA was suddenly so interested in the dead because so many prominent people (Al gore John Kerry etc) were Deadheads and that the CIA ie., the Bush crime cabal) were trying to see that the Dead were not latched on to Clinton's campaign or involved in politics so they were doing everything in their power to discredit the Dead...

All the time trey is sitting there and he doesn't really comment, he is like me, blown by this tale of horror. But I know that is wahy he did not tour very often with Phish during the Bush years.. And probably why a white guy in his forties is pulled over and searched and busted for drugs, not long before the Obama campaign ramped up.....
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:59 PM
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9. Is that the old Fleetwood Mac Song....
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:05 PM
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6. Check out Television (particularly Marquee Moon) for some good ol' drug music
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:20 PM
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7. Pasta, growin on the mountain....big green, sticky pasta....
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Ghost of Tom Joad Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:58 PM
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8. County Joe and the Fish
Electric Music for the Mind and Body
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 09:53 PM
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10. An old favorite of mine
On a cassette I bought from a $2 bin. Great Version of "Big Iron" on there as well.
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