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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 12:07 PM
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Evidence in favor of using a comma before the 'and' in a series
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 12:12 PM
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1. OUCH! Just fucking OUCH!
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 12:15 PM
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2. Haha.
Yep. The comma would've made a huge difference.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 01:22 PM
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3. snicker
:D
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 01:24 PM
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4. LOL!
:)
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 01:24 PM
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5. ROFL
:rofl:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 01:24 PM
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6. Ha!
:rofl:
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 02:59 PM
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7. hahaha nt
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 05:27 PM
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8. I don't use firm rules for commas.
Edited on Mon Nov-08-10 05:31 PM by necso
One reason why is scope. Consider the set {a, B, C}.

This can be written:
lowercase a, uppercase b, and uppercase C
or
lowercase a, uppercase b and c.

But the form "lowercase a, uppercase b, and c" would be less clear. And while the first form is most precise, in writing avoiding the wrong sort of repetition and the use of ponderous forms is often desirable. So, for example, the first form might be used first in the text in order to be most precise, and then the second form used thereafter as a "cleaner shorthand".

Another reason is transition. Considering the same set again, if this list is followed by a semicolon, then the transition is blunt:
a, B, and C;

But depending on what surrounds, a comma might seem a weaker, less "eye-grabbing" transition:
a, B, and C,
a, B and C,

Now, these are oversimplifications, and context is generally essential to interpreting writing. But giving your reader little aids can be helpful.

(Not that I really follow any set of rules; pretty-much I just go with what seems to read well, what seems to work.)

It can be difficult to "step back" from your writing and see what you actually wrote (how this text might be variously interpreted) -- as opposed to what you intended to write.

This is one reason I like to give several "wakeups" (the new perspectives that breaks in the stream-of-consciousness can bring) to anything of significance (of course, by then it might be untimely; so I often write things in advance, look for some opportunity to use them -- and then modify to suit). But there's nothing quite as good as having some (useful, helpful, willing) peer to review what you write.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 05:40 PM
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9. No
The order was out of order.

Among those interviewed were Kris Kristofferson, Robert Duvall and the singer's two ex-wives.
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VioletLake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 06:36 PM
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10. Merle Haggard is a man's man. nt
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 06:52 PM
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11. haha! Yes, a comma is needed there. nt
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 07:38 PM
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12. Oh that's good. And his taste in wives is spectacular.
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 07:43 PM
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13. The 'portance of properly placed punctuation:
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:36 AM
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14. Hahaaa! Good find!
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:07 AM
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15. AKA the serial comma.


"With gratitude to my parents, Mother Teresa and the pope."

http://thelaughorist.blogspot.com/2009/05/serial-comma-wars-continued.html
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