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billlll Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 05:13 AM
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Smartphones - Hard Drives spin in them these days?
Do I need to keep them level

Or do they have chip memories?

Thank you in advance
Lama Cave-ten-years.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 05:20 AM
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1. Is this one connected to a printer?
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billlll Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 05:32 AM
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2. no nt
Nt
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 09:23 AM
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3. I would suspect that they are all solid-state drives (chip).
I've got an HP mini with a 24GB solid state drive (no physical hard drive) - and it came pre-loaded with Linux.

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billlll Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 12:19 PM
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4. anyone else know? PS Malware Questions too, herein
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 12:29 PM by billlll
Thanx Hoops.

Mine made about jan '10.
Uses windows...blkberry.

Store tricked me.... sold used as new...had record of outgoing call fm six months before I got it. A local call not china factory. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
Anyone know for sure about spinning drives?

Also what % of malware out there will not only infect cprs but also smartphones roaming the net? What's a good site to learn about avoiding malware fm email, fm redirected connection when going to some new site,
.... In short what to watch out for?

I see 10% of going-to-sites get redirected.... Some five times. Like Wikipedia now and then. Do thugs put malwre on wiki? Does just viewing a Google "cache" of Wiki ... avoid any such malware. ... Or does it travel intact thru Google to me?

Thanks!
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 04:48 PM
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8. Okay, not an expert but I can address some of this.
Blackberry uses an a proprietary OS and not a Microsoft OS. I doubt anybody is writing viruses for it, though I guess theoretically they could. It's a rather secure OS built around data security, enough so that several nations have banned the functional aspects of *any* Blackberry web utilities as a hedge against terrorist as the security services of those nations lack the technology to crack BB encryption of transferred data.

If your phone was made around Jan 2010 and it's a Blackberry (meaning it's a Curve, Tour or Storm2 most likely) it's using solid state chip-set memory to store the OS and applications and removable media to store files, music, media, pics, etc.

As for the redirects, that's partially the OS and partially the nature of smartphone browsing. Most well-written websites detect smartphone connections and auto-redirect them to stripped-down "mobile" versions of the webpage prior to loading...it's onerous though because the nature of HTML code forces it to be. In the case of Wikipedia for example, that redirect tree might look like this:

Wikipedia
Wikipedia (Mobile)
Wikipedia/search-results
Wikipedia/search-results (Mobile)
Wikipedia/article
Wikipedia/article (Mobile)

5 redirects to do what your computer web browser does automatically and immediately.
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billlll Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 04:58 PM
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10. thanks Chan!! wow you SHOULD consider yourself an expert
More momentarily
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billlll Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 05:03 PM
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11. Q, -phone does "wait" hourglass endlessly aft a site-Virus?
Also... my redirests were from Goog results to a result site.

Either suspicious?

I pull battery out wn suspicious - helps?
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billlll Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 04:27 PM
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5. anyone? n/t
Nt
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 04:33 PM
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6. No - all smartphones are flash-memory based.
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billlll Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 04:38 PM
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7. thanks!! what is flash, with junior level college physics terms?
I'm good at such
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 04:49 PM
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9. "stored in chips" n/t
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billlll Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 05:36 PM
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12.  Another security mystery below......
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 06:07 PM by billlll
Q, -phone does "wait" hourglass endlessly aft a site-Virus?

?

Also... my redirests were from Goog results to a result site.. Not cache in that instance. .

Either suspicious?

I pull battery out wn suspicious - helps?

Chan and Intech, you have cleared up some mysteries that have bugged me for six months!

Billlll
?
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 06:18 PM
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14. Wikipedia explains it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory

Basically, we're talking about memory on a chip, that's non-volatile, so unlike RAM in a computer, it retains information even when the device is turned off.

Like the memory in a USB thumb drive - all on a chip.
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billlll Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 07:52 PM
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16. thanks scatter... now i glom it pretty well
Probably has at its silicate bed some
iron atoms in a coil of some sort.

Wonder what billion year old aliens use LOL.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 06:14 PM
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13. Most of them use flash memory.
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 06:15 PM by backscatter712
Or to put it another way, I have not seen a phone with a spinning hard drive - all the ones I've seen use flash memory.

Lots of iPods do use small hard drives, though because of their light mass (especially when compared to drives in PCs) and shock mounting, you're able to carry them around and use them normally as long as you don't bang them around too much.
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billlll Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 06:21 PM
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15. mysteries are here......
Q, -phone does "wait" hourglass endlessly aft a site-Virus?

?

Also... my redirests were from Goog results to a result site.. Not cache in that instance. .

Either suspicious?

I pull battery out wn suspicious - helps?

Chan and Intech, you have cleared up some mysteries that have bugged me for six months!

Billlll
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 07:54 PM
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17. I doubt it's a virus or malware.
To be honest, I'd say a lot of it is the limitations of your phone - compared to a PC, Blackberrys don't have a lot of computing horsepower - slow CPU when compared to the Intel or AMD chip in your PC, not much RAM to work with, so the little web-browser easily gets brought to its knees by normal web sites that a PC or Mac can handle without breaking a sweat.

For that reason, I've personally been wanting a newer Android phone for Christmas - the newer ones (especially the ones with 1GHz processors) have more computing power and memory, and can handle web surfing much better than my old Blackberry.
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billlll Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 08:41 PM
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19. thanks Scatter and CherokeeProgressive!
Edited on Sun Nov-14-10 08:50 PM by billlll
Puts me more at ease about thar hourglass.

Q. ... Any thoughts about effectiveness of battery-pulling to thwart malware fn its downloading/or spreading thru files as some do?

Going to sleep now, will relook at this thread in the new day Monday.

I Thank also the new re on spinning above or just below... From CherokeeProgressive... Met some in oklahoma a few years ago.

Goodnight all you good and kind people. You are what keeps the world going. Despite the GOPers.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 08:09 PM
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18. No spinning hard drives in any cell phone. n/t
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billlll Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 02:04 AM
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20. thanks Cherokeeprogressive... thats a relief. i dont have to be so careful now n/t
Nt
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