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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 12:25 AM
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Feel like Crap:
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 12:43 AM by Liberalynn
I made my overstressed hard working sister cry over my political views. Okay I tend to get too loud and emotional when talking to my family and friends about it, and don't know when to back down. Its just I have been so angry about what Walker is doing in Wisonsin and so pumped about the unions fighting back, that I just kind of got on an emotional rant and let her have it.

I just don't understand why people think it is okay for people like Trumps wife to have a seperate closet just for her over priced shoes while at the same time begruding working people health care, decent pay and bargaing rights. Not to mention that there are babies in poorer countries dying of starvation.

Hell in the Wisconsin situation we are talking about firefighters here. Guys and ladies who run into burning buildings to save other people and risk their own lives, and teachers who pay for poor kids lunches out of their own pocket, and cops who risk their lives too to stop domestic violence situations and armed robberies. Would Donnald or Millania Trump do any of those things? IMHO I think not.

But then she said she can understand the rich people's side too because if she were a billionaire and had earned her money by being smart and hard working she wouldn't want people saying she couldn't keep that wealth. Now don't get me wrong I love her she has been very generous to me because I am on disability and she has helped me more than I can ever say, and she is a registered Dem but this just irked me and I let her have it. Now she has a high stress job and I know she is tired, overworked, and depressed and I shouldn't have started yelling at her but I couldn't believe she said that. I know she is just as scared about whats happening in the world as I am, we just look at it from diffrent angles. She thinks if what is happening in the middle east spreads our world as we know it will end too. I get that.

But To me what she said about the rich people implies that the only reason every one isn't a millionaire is because they aren't smart enough or hard working enough, as someone like Trump and I said same to her, and I also said IMHO I don't even believe that he earned that money fair and square and without stepping on others to get it.

Our own Dad worked till he was 80 and sometimes 14 hour days in blizzards to repair snow plows, and I pointed that out. I asked "wasn't he hard working enough or smart enough to be a millionaire?" Okay that was probably hitting below the belt right?

It just got to me. She's middle management not even a CEO and doesn't earn over 250K a year, so its not like any one is even talking about begruding her anything. She works 14 hour days, six days a week. Its not like I am talking about her when I say the fat cats need to give it up and quit asking the middle class and the working poor to shoulder the burden. She is the middle class, and one of the ones the fat cats are trying to burden, but she is just to stubborn to see it that way.

But now I feel like crap, because I made her cry I just can't learn to keep my mouth shut on stuff I believe in. I just hope I didn't push her to far. She hung up and wouldn't answer the phone again, when I called to apologize. I hope she is okay.

Sometimes I think I should just crawl in a hole and keep my mouth shut because I only end up hurting the people I care about and who help me.

Can I have a hug? I really need one?
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 12:40 AM
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1. Sorry. Think of a way to apologize w/o phone, decide to do it and do it,
and you'll probably feel better.
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 12:41 AM
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2. dupe
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 12:44 AM by Liberalynn
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 12:42 AM
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3. Thanks!
Good idea about finding another way to apologize.
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 12:55 AM
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4. Hugs....
:hug:


I hope it smooths out for you....
Tikki
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:28 PM
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11. Thank you!
Things did get better yesterday. :hug:
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 02:28 AM
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5. Sorry.
:hug:

Sometimes crying is a good thing. Send flowers or a card to let her know how much you love her.


And in your sister's defense, we all want two coats.
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:30 PM
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12. I bought her some Hershey Chocalte Candy Eggs
Her favorite holiday candy and said I am sorry. It helped. :hug:
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ellenrr Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 04:49 AM
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6. She's your sister, you got to apologize
but you don't have to apologize for your views, just for yelling, and for perhaps expressing yourself too strongly.

It's very hard when people we love don't share our views.
I've decided with certain people not to discuss certain things.

But your choice to continue to talk to people when you know they disagree is brave.
and you're right!

Big hug,
ellen

ps send her a note. She will accept your apology.
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:31 PM
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13. We did make up
She called the next day and said she thinks we were both just too tired and emotional Saturday. Thank you: :hug:
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:23 AM
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7. FWIW:
Taxes, on the Trump level, represent compensating the government for the government resources used to make that money. And if the rich do not pay their fair share, we all suffer.
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:34 PM
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14. That is an excellent point. I agree.
:hug: That is also an argument that a business minded person might relate to better.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 08:27 AM
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8. I'll sell you a hug.
This is the USA.
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:35 PM
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15. Thank you for the smile.
I am still going to give my hugs for free. I mean I am a hippy liberal leftie. :) :hug:
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 11:42 AM
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9. I do the same thing....
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 11:43 AM by Jokinomx
I am a VERY passionate person. I expect others to understand what to me is a very easy thing to understand. Just like your comment about the wealthy.... it's common sense to me that since the society that allowed these "hard" working millionaires to "earn" their wealth, they do owe that same society a "pay back" when needed.

We need it.

Don't change your passion. However, Go and apologize to your sister and thank her for all she does including allowing you to vent anger and frustration.

You know when the pundits say "We all must tighten our belts" they seem to forget that one segment of our society doesn't seem to be included in this.

The ONLY segment of our society that isn't having to sacrifice is the wealthy!!

let me say that again.... The ONLY segment of our society that isn't having to sacrifice is the wealthy!!

We are all in this together....

:hug:
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:40 PM
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16. Thank you!
We have both calmed down and made up. :hug: She even asked me for the list of products she isn't supposed to buy that are produced by the Koch brother's company.

I am going to keep expressing myself. I don't think I can stop myself. I just have to keep the emotions in control while doing it.

Thanks again.:hug:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 03:09 PM
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10. you deserve a HUGE hug
Edited on Sun Feb-27-11 03:09 PM by rurallib
:hug: :hug: :hug:

As for sister - hope it can be repaired by taking time to try to talk it out.

But here is something that really, really makes me mad (and pardon my language)
These effing bastards on the right have been splitting friends and families for the past 30 years with their fucking wedge issues.
They could give a crap about you, me or your sister - they just want every one and everything in a state of constant turmoil. Makes it easier for them to rob us blind. Do the Koch brothers really care abut unions? Probably, but what they really want is those power plants for nothing.

Lastly, the rich got that way by using government services, like armies to steal oil and highways to transport it. They should pay their legitimate share.
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-11 01:48 PM
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17. My sister and I did make up.
Thank heaven. :hug: I totally agree with what you have said also. What the right does isn't just about money. This current situation with the economy is like the Bushies in regard to the WOT.By playing on our worst fears in regards to our physical saftey to further their own IMHO power agenda. Now they are playing on all our fears about being able to keep roofs over our heads, and food on the tables, to manipulate us, and pit against each other, so they can fill their own coffers even more while we are distracted by the fights and fears.
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