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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 02:04 AM
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What would be your excuse if you got caught carrying enough ricin to kill over 4 million people?
On 20 December 1995, Thomas Lewis Lavy was arrested in Onia, Arkansas for possession of ricin. In April 1993, Lavy was caught while trying to smuggle 130 grams of ricin from Alaska into Canada. Lavy stated that he purchased the ricin to poison coyotes on his farm in Arkansas and keep them away from his chickens.

Lavy was stopped at the Beaver Creek border crossing by Canadian custom agents who found, along with the 130 grams of ricin, $89,000, a knife, four guns, and 20,000 rounds of ammunition. Lavy was charged with possession of a toxic substance with intent to use it as a weapon. At the time of Lavy's arrest, FBI agents found castor beans and copies of one book describing how to extract ricin from castor beans, and another discussing ways to poison people with toxic compounds. Lavy was ordered to be held until a January court date in Alaska, but committed suicide in his prison cell before the trial.


:wtf:


For your information: 30 micrograms of ricin (ingested) can kill an average adult. Thomas Lavy was carrying 130,000,000 micrograms of ricin.

If you do the math, that's enough ricin to kill roughly 4,400,000 people.


Is that not the craziest fucking thing you've ever heard?
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 02:38 AM
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1. It's about as crazy
As thinking that Tom Lavy is not a terrorist because he's not a mooslim furriner.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 07:18 AM
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2. My excuse: "I was planning on killing about 4 million people". He was a
terrorist who got caught, thankfully.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 07:35 AM
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3. Tell them Paradoxical told me it was Rice In a bag
Edited on Wed Mar-23-11 07:36 AM by whistler162
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 01:22 AM
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13. ...
:yoiks:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 08:22 AM
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4. That he's lucky he wasn't carrying enough pot to get 4.4 million people high
That's probably a far worse punishment.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 08:28 AM
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5. Why haven't we heard more about this?
Oh, now I get it.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:59 AM
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6. "Ricin? I thought the guy said Risin' - like getting up like Viagra."
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 10:04 AM
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7. Nonsense.
"Thomas Lavy" is not an Arab name. Therefore, this story must be made up. :sarcasm:
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 03:03 PM
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8. haven't thought of that guy in years
i suppose he had some evil plot a brewing in his disturbed brain, we'll never know now
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 03:16 PM
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9. coyotes are hard to kill....
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 08:43 PM
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16. Coyotes aren't THAT hard to kill...
Come on. You get a keg. You get a crate of ammunition. You put up a sign in the local bar, "Coyotes and Beer!" and invite every good ol' boy in town to a coyote shooting fest at your farm.

And you don't have a coyote problem anymore.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 03:29 PM
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10. BIG rats. n/t
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 03:35 PM
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11. I would say
I bought it to make some ricin chicken or some chicken and ric(in):silly:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 03:36 PM
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12. Top ten excuses I would give if caught carrying enough risin to kill 4 million people.
Reason number 10: Gee, officer, I didn't know. I thought it would only kill about 2 million people.

Reason number 9: Um, this stuff? It's just cocaine.

Reason number 8: Ah, I was just holding it for this guy I gave a ride to. He gave me ten bucks and said it would make the chicks horny. I dropped him off in Ottawa.

Reason number 7: How many people live in Ottawa, anyway? Less than 4 million?

Reason number 6: Sure it's deadly, but it tastes great on beignets!

Reason number 5: The Steelers must not win another Super Bowl. The Steelers must not win another Super Bowl.

Reason number 4 that I would give to explain why I had enough ricin to kill four million people: You know, officer, it really wouldn't stretch that far. I mean, 4 million would be a best-case scenario, assuming I could deliver each dose perfectly to each victim and not waste any due to wind patterns or water contamination. Some of it would undoubtedly be inhaled by animals, and many people would receive larger than necessary doses, while it skipped over others altogether. I was really figuring on a 35% success rate in a town like Spokane, and even that would be optimistic.

Reason number 3: I told Chuck Lorrie he'd better not fire me.

Reason number 2: The Second Amendment guarantees my right to keep and bear ricin.

And the number one reason I would give as to why I had enough ricin to kill four million people: Gee, officer, in retrospect I should have bid on the Virgin Mary toast.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 10:58 AM
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14. LOL.
:applause:

Now I can start my day!
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 11:14 AM
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15. awesome!
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 09:42 PM
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17. "I was holding it for a friend..."
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