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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 10:35 AM
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You're living in a computer simulation, and math proves it
Is your life really your life, or is it actually the dream of a butterfly? Or is it a complex computer simulation indistinguishable from "real" reality? Don't worry, it's just a glitch in the Matrix. It happens when they change something.

Questions about the nature of reality weren't invented by high-as-a-kite college sophomores. Chinese philosopher Zhuangzi noticed sometime around 300 BCE that his dreams of being something other than human (a butterfly, most famously) were indistinguishable from his experience being Zhuangzi. He could not say with certainty that he was Zhuangzi dreaming of being a butterfly rather than a butterfly dreaming of being Zhuangzi.

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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 09:10 PM
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1. Beware of that delusion.
Edited on Sun May-08-11 09:16 PM by RandomThoughts
Basically there is a delusion that the world is a computer program. There are many variations, the current most common variation is that children are the players in the simulation.

However that has happened since there was a push to create that view of that reality, angels painted as babies was start, and many shows spoke of the supernatural as Children.

Variations of computer game played by children are "Its a School", "People are toys", and "Pets"

However, it is better to think of Asimov Foundation trilogy, where the idea of what people think the supernatural is, changes what people think the supernatural is.

Or, if you are susceptible to that delusion, some of the supernatural will try to pull you to it.



There are some that say they know more, there argument is much research. Although they might not have found what reality is, but the current most common delusion.


There are lots of other delusions, being alone in a simulation is a particular bad one. Although seeing many people in that delusion, shows that delusion wrong by most thoughts.

There are lots of delusions, but the primary motive of Tron, and Matrix delusion is to get you to think of supernatural as having power over you.

If you can't shake that delusion, and it is pretty easy to shake, then just think that there are certain rules, free will, and such, that limit what can be done.



Some other subsets of matrix, Tron delusions are "its a lab" "its for R&D" "its a game" "Its a simulation that runs a larger system by symbolic representation, like a computer for a ship" there are a few others.


But really if you did not have power over people, and you were in the supernatural, your first goal would be to get them to think you do, and 'tron' or 'matrix' delusion can do that.



On a side note, I am still due beer and travel money, and many experiences.



If the world was a computer game, the supernatural would not have put so much time trying to convince me of that. And believe me, I have seen some things that 'say that' far outside of normal, although none of them have an intent except to get me to believe that, lowering there credibility by much. The only effect of me believing that would be breaking my spirit, or trying to break my thoughts of dignity for all people.




However most people are under the delusion, what I type is like reading a teleprompter from somewhere else, and I am irrelevant to what I post. A delusion to try to give them a reason not to send beer and travel money, and a delusion I have at times played into becuase of its ridiculousness. Once people know I am due beer and travel money, they have to find another reason to say I should not have it sent, saying I am only saying what something else is actually saying is one way to rationalize that.

I post what I think, even if I sometimes have fun with many different views of reality.

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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 09:15 PM
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2. Computer,end simulation!
:shrug:
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 09:24 PM
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3. I could tell you a thousand stories around that delusion.
Edited on Sun May-08-11 09:29 PM by RandomThoughts
The idea of a new world where some are moved forward, is moving from Beta to release version, that is a funny one.

Or the Mayans idea of world made and destroyed many times is new versions of game.

Or Noah's ark is moving people from one game to another.

Or the world is the big retailer, and individual computers is where people go when they are 'picked up' by someone. Although many mount raids on other computers to free people being treated wrongly, then a dimensional shift is when you move from one computer simulation to another. (Toy Story)

Or the way you create a holodeck is to beam people into the computer, and if that can happen, people can be beamed out.

Or the idea of 'forever' is being put in a simulated AI environment, and being forgotten is nobody ever coming back to tweak the AI, or visit you, you just live forever in the simulation. Although many people fearing being alone shows that is not true. (Is anybody out there)

Or the simulation is created to solve all the issues of resources and space, and people move into it willingly then people inside the simulation can modify it (architects)

Or the simulation is for training people to do 'work' as computer programs in other places later. Then where you end up depends on what you accel at or learn.

Or the simulation is where people train children of a society like a educational program.

Or the story is like TV, where people use the simulation to tell stories.

I could tell you 100 other variations on that delusion.


The easiest way to break all those delusions is to know they have one effect. To tell people in the world that something else has complete total control over them.

And that being the only effect, why would I be able to know, if they could change my memories or thoughts. It is logically not a sound concept. If they had total control, they would not need me to know that, and if I have some control, I am not in a simulation, and trying to get me to think that is to make me think I have no free will or control.




I even wrote a story with that as a plot twist in metaphor, but just a story.


However much of the segment of Internet and TV I see, could be from an AI system.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 09:31 PM
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4. COMPUTER! End simulation.
Please?
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 09:35 PM
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5. I am due beer and travel money, and many experiences.
However I am not running a simulation.

Although someone may be augmenting Internet searches with computer AI, or even TV, I am not doing a simulation.



I am due beer and travel money, and many experiences.



Although I get you may be referencing the movie Wargames where a simulation is in progress, I can quickly dismiss that as any idea of what is reality. I am not part of, nor in any, nor running any simulations.

Because nobody has sent me the beer and travel money that is due. And why would that not occur in a simulation?
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 09:38 PM
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6. Hey,I like beer and travel,too.
Even if it's in a VR world.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 09:46 PM
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7. heh.
Edited on Sun May-08-11 09:46 PM by RandomThoughts
I have never seen a VR world, although it would be interesting.

I think the Real Thing is better :)


And why would the high level of wheels in wheels of 'The Real Thing' exist if I was in a VR world.



Side note, the possibility of internet searches, Cable TV and Internet Segments as having AI algorithms is pretty high.
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TheCanadianLiberal Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 09:52 PM
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8. sudo apt-get install life
killall life




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