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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 01:50 PM
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No kill / live catch release mousetraps
I've been using a Victor "tin cat" for the last several days and once I found where they were getting in and out, placed it nearby with a dab of peanut butter inside and viola, eight mice last night. All sent off into the great outdoors.

It has plenty of air holes so you can see through the side if there are any passengers (of course, there is also a version with a clear top). One gave me such a glance...please be kind to our smaller brothers and sisters. They all want the same things we want. Excepting of course for Snooki and Trump to stfu, but you never know, and I haven't asked ;)

Highly recommended!
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 02:06 PM
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1. you sure you aren't catching the same ones over and over?
if you know where they are getting in, close it up - problem solved.


this is a bit of a pet peeve of mine

see any of my previous posts on catch and release, it's just a feel-good, fool-yourself exercise. snap traps are fast, effective and actually much more humane
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 02:13 PM
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2. Unless you release them 20 miles away, they come back.
My attitude about little disease carrying rodents is kill them.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 02:37 PM
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3. I'm going to seal the hole, of course, and already saw two go down in a glue trap.
Glue traps are among the most horrific "human" inventions.

Thanks for the killing advice in the above posts, in a "no kill" thread ;):rofl:
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 03:02 PM
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4. Think about this where you live
Edited on Wed Jun-01-11 03:03 PM by hobbit709
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 03:26 PM
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7. What's a little hemorrhagic fever between friends?
To paraphrase John Brunner's "Stand on Zanzibar": Mice are superior to human beings in that they didn't create atomic and hydrogen weapons.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 03:27 PM
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8. But have killed exponentially more through disease and starvation.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 03:31 PM
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10. Okay, love you bye bye.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 03:18 PM
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5. I'm with you. I give them a nice 'drive' to the neighboring state and release them.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 03:22 PM
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6. Make them an SEP
Bet the people that inherit the little buggers are real happy about that.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 06:51 PM
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20. yeah i hate jerks who do that, same jerks who dump their unwanted cats in the country too
they think they are being "kind," all they are doing is causing problems for everybody else

in nature, pretty much ALL the niches are taken, if someone traps a bunch of mice and then releases in the countryside they're just putting the mice in a situation where they will be killed by the local mice (this also happens w. rabbits)

my friend had a country cottage that was falling down and i guess it looked abandoned, shitheads were always dumping animals there, i just don't understand people

kill the damn mouse humanely, don't cart it out 20 miles from home so it can be killed by the local mice and perhaps also spread some city diseases into the countryside before it dies its agonizing death

same for your unwanted cats, dogs, and raccoons...this is not cute, kind, or harmless behavior, and people need to be called on it

unless you're a wildlife officer who KNOWS the territory where the animal is being released, you have no damn business releasing an animal into that environment...YOU ARE A POLLUTER AND A KILLER who wants to feel good about being a killer

just be an honest killer, there is nothing wrong w. killing a mouse that is trying to live in your house, there is a LOT wrong w. fooling around and moving that mouse into a completely different territory where other people and mice already live
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 03:30 PM
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9. I love it! This thread belongs in GD!
Or if you can't lead a horse to water, bring the water to the horse :rofl:
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denbot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 12:28 AM
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11. Good on ya..
We have a problem with our cats bringing in mice, almost always live and uninjured. We (meaning I) re-capture and release them outside, with the hope that they are a little wiser, and more careful in the future.

We have a Campbell's Dwarf Hamster, that one of our cats captured and released in our house. 'Lucky the Hamster' has been with us for almost two years now. A very sweet little critter, courtesy of our kitties.
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idiotgardener Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 12:44 AM
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12. Thanks for being kind to wildlife
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:04 AM
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13. I have a better idea...


"Disease-carrying vermin" means something, guys.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 07:36 AM
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14. Yeah, that's how I feel about most people...
Sadly it's illegal to get rid of them.
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 06:04 PM
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18. Can't argue with that. nt
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 01:43 PM
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15. Just be sure you remember to check the traps at least daily.
Several years ago I placed one and forgot it. When the funny smell got my attention some weeks later, I discovered that what happened to those mice was anything but humane.

I prefer live traps, but my current pest problem is moles. There's no trapping them live, and no humane way to discourage them from opting to live in my yard instead of the nearby woods. Sonic repellents are bunk, chemical repellents are bunk, eliminating grubs won't work (moles eat earthworms primarily), cats won't hunt them, dogs can't catch them. So it's the old scissor trap. At least the moles are already buried when they meet the fatal snip.

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PuffedMica Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 05:57 PM
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16. But spring mouse traps are so much fun to play with
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 05:59 PM
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17. I'd thought about using this kind, but our mouse eventually went away on its own.
Edited on Thu Jun-02-11 06:02 PM by Pithlet
At least I'm telling myself this is what happened.
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 06:15 PM
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19. About 10 years ago, I lived on the ground floor. My neighbors upstairs? Not so clean.
My house became the Underground Railroad for escaping rodents. Big ones. San Francisco has rats the size of Springer Spaniels.

Now, I hate rodents. Hate 'em. I'd rather deal with reptiles, than get anywhere near those plague-carrying vermin. So I tried the Live trap. They escaped. I tried the Sonar. They adapted. Then the guy in the Garden Store told me to get the glue traps, and just the thought was so horrific, I almost slapped him. Especially since I'm a vegetarian, I can't just kill a critter cuz I don't like it.

But guess what? There are plenty of carnivores who will. A nice terrier, providing you don't mind having your garden dug through to China. Or in my case, I did what the ancient Egyptians and Phonecians did: adopted a cat. Now, that comes with its own set of issues, like now I have to genuflect to her 5 times a day and reassure her that I understand she is a Superior Being and I am a Mere Supplicant, but it's better than dealing with Willard and Ben. Kitty didn't even have to kill them--one scent of her presence and they took off like--well, rats leaving a sinking ship. So I don't live there anymore, but Kitty came with me to the new house and has spread her protective Mojo there as well.

I advocate that solution over all others!
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