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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:37 PM
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Is this the future of America?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x983028

Point being: I've been to other stores and chatted with the more knowledgeable staff.

They all have a pattern that's very disturbing:

Management being vicious.

Management having no clue as to sell a good product.

Management wanting only profits, not caring about the customer.

Good workers leaving to go elsewhere (but failing because they're just too small to compete and/or the market's full of such workers already.)

Management even cutting jobs and making the remaining staff work themselves to death or insanity

Forgive me, but if this is an example of what a money-driven society is about... (Censored... - but you've heard me say just about all of it before anyway.)
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:40 PM
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1. sounds more like a return to the past
which is just as bad :evilfrown:
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:46 PM
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2. Returning to the 19th century "industrial revolution".....
:eyes: You know: workers HAVE NO rights.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:02 PM
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3. They only hurt themselves
as well as their workers. I can't tell you how many jobs I quit (well 5 to be exact) where the company went out of business within 6 months because they couldn't keep production up.

It's a perfect example of a money driven society and it's sickening.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:09 PM
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4. I was lucky... for two reasons:
1. I got a close-up view of everything.

2. I actually gave a frack about what was going on around me to the workers as much as my conversation with my co-worker, who had noticed the same things and a couple others she'd seen and mentioned as well.

Not just of inability to keep production up, they needed more staff to do the work. Instead, they took their hate caused by their own greed and took it out on the workers, who for any number of reasons may not be there for long.

Working for profits is one thing, but doing it to the point of bullying and chastising others in an impossible situation they created is purely despicable. And I still keep forgetting about how workers' productivity has more than doubled over the last 24 years while pay (after adjusted for inflation) hasn't gone up for the workers doing 2x as much while CEO pay has gone up 524x. Our society is truly skewed. It's sugar coated SLAVERY, nothing more.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:14 PM
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5. I agree, it is slavery.
And it was the bullying that got me to vote with my feet. I was just commenting from the fact that alot of times I was doing the same work in the same amount of time as three people.

I always told my bosses up front that I could do the job just to leave me the hell alone to do it. They don't listen.

It's the main reason why unfettered capitalism ultimately fails just as unfettered communism fails. Privilege.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:17 PM
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6. Shop local
whenever you can. Check the 'net for craftspeople who can make things you need. Whenever possible, buy from thrift stores-recycling products helps the environment and your pocketbook. And a lot of times you can find better quality there.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:20 PM
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7. Those local businesses
Edited on Tue Apr-06-04 06:20 PM by camero
can be just as tyrannical as a major corp. They just don't take as long to go bust. I think the tyranny is what Hypnotoad is getting at and that making it easier for workers is better for business because it reduces turnover and lowers training costs. And increases production and the amount of business coming in.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 05:52 AM
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8. Depends on the business
When I'm talking local business, I'm talking about businesses owned and run by folks you know. I get my plants from the guy who has the greenhouse down the road. He's been active in peace/environmental protests ever since I've lived here. I know how he treats the folks who work for him-fairly and honestly. The local toymaker/stained glass artist is a one-man business. The lady who owns the backhoe company grows organic beef on the side, and will trade out backhoe work for mechanical work. Sure, there can be SOBs in any business-but if they are local, it is more likely you know if they are or not.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 06:26 AM
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9. A Side Benefit Of Dealing With People You Like Locally
Is getting to know who to go to for other things. For example, I know a local lighting company and know who the better electricians, builders, mechanics and software vendors are.
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