N.H. AG snubs Nader's request, call or fax the bastard

The Attorney General of N.H. yesterday dismissed Ralph Nader's application for a recount saying it was not accompanied by the fee.

-Here is the N.H.law:

http://www.sos.nh.gov/rsa660.htm

While it mentions the fee, it does not state that the fee must accompany the request, it simply states that the fee should be paid according to 660-2 the schedule(how much for each kind).

call, fax or email the AG of N.H. and demand that they act on Nader's request for a re-count.

Phone: 603-271-3242
Fax: 603-271-6316
E-Mail: Elections@sos.state.nh.us


and call Nader's press guy, we need lawyers on this quickly.
Kevin Zeese 202.265.4000

Please fill me in. I thought Kerry won New Hampshire. Was there a change? How did Nader suddenly become a "good guy" instead of a "bad guy"?
WTF?

ok, as a Presidential candidate, Ralph Nader has the right to ask for a recount...they think they can prove fraud there...if he can get a recount there and can prove fraud, it opens up 34 other states for recount.

that's the short of it.

Now yesterday the NH state AG said "I don't think so Ralph, you didn't send me a check", but that's not NH state law...so we have to PUSH his ass to move on this,now.

I hope that helps.

Sounds like a distraction to me. would that be a total recount in those 34 states...would they have to be applied to one by one? Is Bev (can't remember her last name...the one who is investigating election fraud) supporting this? Who won those states? Sorry, but I do not trust Nader.

yes, that's her.

I think they asked Nader cause Kerry's too busy crying into his teacup.

that Bev Harris asked Nader to do this? Everything is sort of murky now, and I feel the need to get to the bottom of all issues. Is there a link? what makes me suspicious, is why he started with a state that Kerry won.

They picked NH because they felt it was a better case to prove fraud.

as for a link, here is the press release:

http://www.votenader.com/media_press/index.php?cid=400

I tried calling his office but it's too early.

Randy Rhodes was screaming about this all day friday,
her archive: http://www.randirhodesarchives.com/

You can give it a listen and it will fill you in on the details.

One is to Nader, the other I couldn't get to. What I want is a link saying somebody besides Nader is doing this...a link to Bev Harris. I honestly cannot trust anything that nader does at this point. this might be a "red herring" to distract us.

It is an impulse thought to support this in light of such voting fraud...but Nader had not been our friend.......never forget that......this smells.

"The application shall be made in writing to the secretary of state and shall be submitted no later than the Friday following the election. Each candidate requesting a recount shall pay the secretary of state fees as provided in RSA 660:2."

Since the recount would begin by the following Wednesday, there's not much time, and it's presumed the payment would be upon application. And it wouldn't make sense to recount and then ask for payment.

It's more expressly stated down in the section dealing with local recounts "Such application shall be accompanied by a fee of $10 for each 1000 ballots or fraction thereof". That doesn't apply to the presidential recounts, but upon reading it, I think a reasonable person could infer that you're supposed to pay the fee when you apply in writing.

If Nader had read the statute (which I'm sure his team had) they would have known that a request in writing was necessary, and a fee was required to be paid. They could have easily included the fee with the application, as it's not that much money. Or, if they were unsure, they could have asked.

The only way they could have a problem is if they were asked, someone told them in person "oh, you have until Wednesday to get us the check", and then officially rejected it for no fee, but if that was the case, I'm sure we'd be hearing about it.

It also says:
"IV. If the difference between the vote cast for the applying candidate and a candidate declared elected shall be greater than 3 percent of the total votes cast in the towns which comprise the office to be recounted, the candidate shall pay the fees as provided in RSA 660:2, III and shall agree in writing with the secretary of state to pay any additional costs of the recount."

This implies again you pay up front, and if the difference is >3% you agree in writing to pick up any additional costs afterwards. It seems clear that you have to pay in advance.

The Nashua Telegraph says:
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041106/NEWS02/111060040/-1/news
"Secretary of State Bill Gardner said a Nader official told him the campaign tried to fax a copy of the check to pay for the recount but it jammed."

Well, if he tried to fax a copy of the check, then they know they have to get payment in. Sorry if it jammed, but it's their responsibility to get the payment to the Sec. of State. Does he have no one in NH that can write a check for $2000 on his behalf?

What are his motives? With Nader, it's hard to know. Maybe he wants to campaign to change the election system. That'd be worthwhile. Is he doing this on behalf of the GOP? I doubt it, because NH has a Republican governor (but not for much longer!). If the GOP wanted it to go through, they could probably make it happen. Is he doing it for the Democrats? I doubt it, he hasn't helped them with anything else. Is he doing it to challenge the system? I think most likely. If he can do it, it's actually the best thing he's done in this election so far.