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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 09:50 PM
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Progressive Democrats of America - A New Party? Look Here:
Take a good look at the

Progressive Democrats of America... http://pdamerica.org /

This new caucus movement intends to take back the Dem Party from inside and we need your help. Join... with Dean and Kucinich supporters, Indies, Greens and ABB Dems who fell behind Kerry as a last ditch solution - like we need another billionaire President. Instead we’ll rekindle the voice of dissent from WITHIN the Democratic Party.

I'm thinking we should combine blogs/forums with them! Listen to this:


ACTION SUGGESTED TO REACH DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP
Filed under: Vision Dem. Party Platform— kspidel @ 11:20 am
Some creative and hardworking Kerry volunteers are dismayed that Kerry has just about vanished, and the Democratic National Committee (the DNC) has been really quiet about all the voting and counting problems with this election… Incredible machine problems have emerged (one in Ohio recorded negative 21,000,000 votes!) Lots of voting place hassles, misinformation, appalling waits, etc, have also been documented.

So, because they can’t get the Democrats to respond to them (one has gotten 2 funding appeals since Nov. 2, though…) these Minnesotans are suggesting that people who want the Democrats to come out aggressively as the Party for Clean Elections and Voter Enfranchisement send back their Kerry t-shirts, buttons, etc to the DNC.

They aren’t conspiracy theorists; they’ve just all been using computers (and cars, washing machines, etc) too long to believe that ANY machine is 100 per cent INFALLIBLE. And they want to assure CLEAN ELECTIONS and ACCURATE COUNTS in the future.

They’ve put up their suggestions and a creative form to send to the DNC at http://loyalopp.tripod.com/fairvote.html

PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG QUICKLY. LET’S SWAMP THE DNC!

FIRST THINGS FIRST. Without Election Integrity guaranteed, our democracy is DEAD

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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 09:53 PM
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1. Going to check out the links now.
I am who you are talking about. Though I did love Kerry (still do), inside I yearn for a truly progressive party and candidate (my views were closer to those of Kucinich). What irks me most is the corporate control of EVERY facet of life in America, including both parties.

Thanks!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 09:59 PM
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2. Done
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:04 PM
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3. Progressive Dems Policy and Mission Statement:
http://pdamerica.org/press/pr-2004-11-18.php

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Thursday, November 18, 2004

Progressive Wing of the Democratic Party Announces First Policy Statement and Ongoing Mission

Organization Pledges to hold Democrats and Republicans Responsible to 57 Million Voters

Washington, DC--Progressive Democrats of America (PDA) announced its first policy initiative today in its drive to influence the platform and agenda of the national Democratic Party. Citing the slim 2.6% majority vote achieved in the recent election, the new statement released by PDA asserts, "We do not believe that the November election was a mandate to destroy Iraq while saving it nor an endorsement of the President's management of the conflict." (See full statement below.)

"Our objective is to demonstrate that the progressive movement is alive and growing both inside and outside the Party," said PDA director, Tim Carpenter. PDA was established as a counterbalance to the Democratic Leadership Council. Many rank-and-file Party members feel the DLC appeased conservatives and allowed a policy shift to the political right.

High profile thought leaders like writer and journalist Tom Hayden, have endorsed the PDA position statement. "It is George Bush's mistake now," said Hayden, "The role of all Democrats and concerned Americans is to make him end his denial, accept responsibility and take significant steps to end the American occupation and leave Iraq to the Iraqis."

PDA currently has 11 state caucuses with 15,000 registered members. The group has begun to work with its 22 other allied progressive organizations to launch a grassroots effort to influence the Democrats and put pressure on the current administration. In the wake of the November general election, this effort indicates the resilience of the grassroots movement established during the 2003-2004 Democratic Primary is still alive and represents the heartbeat of the Democratic Party.

The new PDA policy statement on Iraq reads as follows:

A Time To Break the Democrats' Silence on Falluja and the Escalation of the War in Iraq

As Progressive Democrats we call on our Democratic Party leadership to break the public silence on the bloodbath in Falluja. Sixteen hundred Iraqi insurgents are said to have been killed and countless others maimed, crippled or injured in a single week. Over thirty American soldiers are dead and several hundred are wounded. Over eighty major attacks have been launched on American positions in several other uprisings from Mosul to Baghdad. Despite military and administration public relations, the US-trained Iraqi forces cannot or will not stand on their own.

America is creating a slaughterhouse in the name of democratic elections. As foreigners, we are dividing Sunni from Shiite and Kurd in the name of a fragmented Iraqi unity. We are ominously alone, abandoned by fifteen of our Coalition allies - so far - and by the United Nations.

This military strike was timed to occur after the American presidential election. While the main responsibility lies with President Bush, the national Democratic Party leadership has supported and encouraged the military offensive in Falluja as well. Both parties have bloody hands.
It is time for the bipartisan collusion in this war to end. It is time for the Democratic Party to become faithful to its faithful rank-and-file through becoming the party of opposition. It is time to declare clearly that this war is a mistake. The conduct of the war is a mistake. America is squandering the lives of its soldiers, the revenues of its taxpayers, and the trust of its people for a mistake.

When will our party leaders join in asking who will be the last American to die for this mistake?

Progressive Democrats will neither wait nor be silent. We will organize locally as voices and voters for peace. We will hold our Congressional representatives accountable if they support a $75 billion blood-stained check for the Iraq war. We will point out the daily cost of the war to our deficits, our cities, health care, housing and anti-poverty programs. We will demand greater candor and respect for our combat soldiers while also honoring those troops and their families who choose to oppose the war in the tradition of the young John Kerry.

During the presidential campaign, we gave one hundred percent for a Democratic ticket that felt compelled to defend a mistake. We do not believe that the November election was a mandate to destroy Iraq while saving it nor an endorsement of the President's management of the conflict. It is George Bush's mistake now, and the role of all Democrats and concerned Americans is to make him end his denial, accept responsibility and take significant steps to end the American occupation and leave Iraq to the Iraqis.

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MEDIA CONTACT:
Tim Carpenter
877-368-9221
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:06 PM
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4. PDA - Whozit sofar?
http://pdamerica.org/

NEW! Watch speeches online from the 2004 PDA National Convention!

Medea Benjamin
Rep. John Conyers
Gov. Howard Dean
Tom Hayden Rep. Dennis Kucinich
Rep. Barbara Lee
Marianne Williamson
Jim Zogby
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Angelique Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 01:17 PM
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9. Interesting developments to keep an eye on..
We need a fresh start, with one that reflects the basic values of our own original Democrat Party. Not the washed out half Repub version we have become.. No wonder we are loosing power, why should anyone want to choose Repo-lite, or Repo-strong with no alternatives.. I'm ready for a real change.
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Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:36 PM
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12. I can't accept this...
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 01:48 PM by Psyop Samurai
It is time to declare clearly that this war is a mistake.

This "war" is no such thing. This "war" is deliberate, calculated criminal fraud, conspiracy, treason, and mass murder. No amount of faith-based thinking will change these facts.

This document, however well-intentioned, is another smoke screen that protects criminals and safely channels dissent. While I may vote with a gun to my head, that's as far as my collusion with the BIG LIE goes.

PDA was established as a counterbalance to the Democratic Leadership Council. Many rank-and-file Party members feel the DLC appeased conservatives and allowed a policy shift to the political right.

I am not looking for a "counterbalance" to treasonous, savage criminals. I am looking for their arrest and prosecution. Moreover, I reject phoney liberal/conservative constructions which perpetuate the BIG LIE.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:16 AM
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5. kick
:kick:
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:47 PM
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6. kick
kick
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Kevin Spidel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 07:46 AM
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7. not a new party
just using the shell of the party left over post nov 2nd. Promoting dean as chair, and moving in the kucinich and dean state campaigns into the party via recognized caucuses.

check out our summit! hope you will be there.

BTW, I am the former national field director for Kucinich for Pres... just so you know some of OUR values ;)
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 09:13 AM
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8. Just a hint:
You need to take control of the DNC, the money, the top
level. That's where the rotten core is. And the state
party machines. Then we can kick some "conservative" ass.
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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 08:18 PM
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10. Not really a third party.
Because they say that even though the Democratic Party isn't the answer, that a third party isn't the answer either.

I think this group strives to reform the Democratic Party, which it badly needs reforming. I hope this group does take off.
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Kevin Spidel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:28 AM
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11. we have some great actions online
please make sure you tell your lists about them! we sent over 15,000 letters to congress already!
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 12:25 AM
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13. I joined PDA...
in November when they first started sending out information regarding meet-ups. I'm glad to see something happening, but I'm not sure how "activist" they are going to be. I posted on my local site and have heard NOTHING back. The meeting we were to attend was cancelled, however it was because of a surgery. I'm looking forward to going to my first meeting, but am apprehensive.

I'm getting a little worried that Democrats seems to be going off in too many different directions looking for some haven. I don't have any real answers, but the Democratic Party I knew from before would most assuredly have made LOTS of noise about THIS election by now. And I agree that the silence from CONGRESS is really a ROAR! I've written far too many people in government and have nothing to show for it. I guess it's just going to come down to "we the people!"
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:26 AM
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14. RE: "I joined PDA..."
Your not alone as I am joining this wing tomorrow when I have some time after classes. The DLC needs a wake up call as they are destroying this party. Kerry needed to take on Bush with some teeth and Al Sharpton and Howard Dean were the only two to do just that.

I just started writing one letter a day to the media. It's becoming a habit for me now and thats a good thing. Whenever I catch them lying and spreading right wing talking points I make sure that shot doesnt go unanswered.

We have a history of many ugly things in this country that I'm not proud of. There were lies that lead to the vietnam War, War against Mexico, entrance to WWI and now the Iraq War (Gulf War One had its share of disinformation also). One thing we can be proud of is our heritage of speaking truth to power and that's what we're going to do.

There'sno room for exhaustion. Repiglicans work 24/7 to destroy this country and the Dems have been more than willing to just go along with it. THAT SHITS GOING TO STOP!!!!!

We will make them stop by raisinr ou voices and telling these crooks who really owns this country........US!!!!

Just keep your eye on the prize my friend
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:10 AM
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15. I joined
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gingergreen Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:21 AM
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16. I just joined...
I had seen their site before and been interested. But now that it seems to be catching on I think it could really help bring unity between all progressives: DNC, Green, Environmentalists...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:10 AM
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17. I agree
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