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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 06:51 AM
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Anti-War Conservatives for Obama
Anti-War Conservatives for Obama

By Richard Whalen | April 4, 2008 5:00 AM | Permalink | Comments (5)


Anti-war conservatives are rallying around ultra-liberal Barack Obama. He promises to “get out of Iraq as carefully as we went in carelessly,” and that’s enough for Andrew J. Bacevich, professor of history and international relations at Boston University.

Bacevich, writing in The American Conservative, says: “Barack Obama is no conservative. Yet if he wins the Democratic nomination, come November principled conservatives may well find themselves voting for the senator from Illinois. Given the alternatives—and the state of the conservative movement—they could do worse.

“Granted, when it comes to defining exactly what authentic conservatism entails, considerable disagreement exists even (or especially) among conservatives themselves. My own definition emphasizes the following:

* a commitment to individual liberty, tempered by the conviction that genuine freedom entails more than simply an absence of restraint;
* a belief in limited government, fiscal responsibility, and the rule of law;
* veneration for our cultural inheritance combined with a sense of stewardship for Creation;
* a reluctance to discard or tamper with traditional social arrangements;
* respect for the market as the generator of wealth combined with a wariness of the market’s corrosive impact on humane values;
* a deep suspicion of utopian promises, rooted in an appreciation of the sinfulness of man and the recalcitrance of history.

“Accept that definition and it quickly becomes apparent that the Republican Party does not represent conservative principles. The conservative ascendancy that began with the election of Ronald Reagan has been largely an illusion. During the period since 1980, certain faux conservatives—especially those in the service of Big Business and Big Empire—have prospered. But conservatism as such has not.”

Bacevich, a Vietnam vet and a gold star father, whose beloved son and namesake was killed in Iraq is our generation’s Charles Beard. The Obama movement swells daily with traditional political figures of the first rank. Kevin Phillips, an old rightist, says he expects to vote for Obama. Another likely Obama supporter may be retired General Bill Odom, the leading anti-war strategist. In 2005, General Odom, former head of the National Security Agency under Reagan, called the Iraq War “the greatest single strategic mistake in our nation’s history.” A younger Reagan-era colleague, Doug Bandow and many of The American Conservative’s writers and editors are also leaning toward Obama.

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http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/whalen/2008/04/antiwar-conservatives-for-obam.html
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:57 AM
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1. I hope they do but.....
I am an Obama supporter and I don't consider him Liberal at all. Maybe he is more so than Hillary but to me the only Liberal running was Dennis. Maybe that is why I am still not all full of piss and vinegar for our two choices.
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:21 AM
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2. K & R. AJB is a significant endorsement for Obama.
His books on American foreign policy are 'required' reading, along with Chalmers Johnson, for thoughtful people, no matter where on the political spectrum you happen to be.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 04:31 PM
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3. Not just liberal but "Ultra Liberal"
I wonder what that makes me? Somewhere off the scale I suppose.
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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 04:33 PM
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4. An excellent thought-provoking post.
I consider myself liberal on many issues but I'm conservative on things like a balanced budget, "pay as you go" and cutting the pork. The pork happens to include an unnecessary and expensive war. Whatever the political philosophy of the nutty right is, it certainly isn't conservative.

Yes, I can see political conservatives finding something in Barack Obama. He's a straight-shooter and that's a quality that real conservatives appreciate. They are probably as sick as we are of the incompetence and cronyism.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:11 AM
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5. kick
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:18 PM
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6. There have always been anti-imperialist conservatives--
--dating back to Andrew Carnegie, who offered to buy the Phillipines for ten million dollars and allow them to be free. An imperial government is necessarily a big government, so some conservatives don't like it just for that reason.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:47 PM
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7. We're hearing from people all across
the spectrum who care for their country and think for themselves and I'm really not too surprised that so many are finding themselves drawn to Obama as a way to get our country back on track.

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