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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:44 PM
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Why Dis Gore?
http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/archive/2008/04/14/why-dis-gore.aspx

Why Dis Gore?

By Christopher Beam


Hillary Clinton’s strategy when it comes to wooing superdelegates seems to be aggressive courtship followed by equally aggressive rejection. They’re your best friend until the moment they endorse Obama, at which point you disown them. Bill "Judas" Richardson learned this firsthand.

That could explain why Clinton took a thinly veiled shot at Al Gore at last night’s “Compassion Forum":

We had two very good men, and men of faith, run for president in 2000 and 2004. Large segments of the electorate concluded that they did not really understand, or relate to, or respect their ways of life.

Honestly, if Clinton thought there was even a sliver of a chance that Al Gore would endorse her, she never would have said this. The dis isn’t quite explicit; she couches it as what other people think. But a little interlinear reading—“large segments of the electorate” represents the unassailable Will of the People, which is of course never wrong—makes it pretty clear that she’s endorsing the idea. Later in the evening, when Obama appeared on the program, he pointedly stood up for the former veep: “I thought Al Gore won.”

Meanwhile, the Scotsman (of Samantha Power fame) ran a thinly sourced piece yesterday reporting that Jimmy Carter and Al Gore are planning to endorse Obama any day now in a double-fisted death blow to Clinton’s campaign. Over at DailyKos, diarist "davefromqueens" thinks Clinton lashed out at Gore yesterday as a pre-emptive strike against an impending endorsement. Of course Gore would endorse Obama, the logic goes, they’re both out-of touch elitist males.

It could be that Gore has truly decided not to endorse, and that Obama was just defending Gore in order to defend himself. But then why would Clinton go out of her way to 1) attack Gore, 2) explicitly link Gore and Kerry, who has endorsed Obama, and 3) implicitly link Obama to both of their losses? There’s no reason to publicly insult a potential ally unless he has already switched to the other side. Neutrality wouldn’t merit scorn.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:46 PM
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1. Yep, she knows what's coming and she's trying to trash them all
What a sad little person.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:51 PM
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2. It's my ball, and if I leave, ain't no one else gonna play!
Nice, Hillary.
Real nice.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:53 PM
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3. The fact she hasn't agreed with Obama and gone after BushMcSame is telling
The fact that she would advance the "liberal elite" taunt -- instead of saying
she agrees with Obama that the economic policies of the last 8 years have
decimated the middle class -- shows that she's becoming less and less like a
Democrat and more like Joe Lieberman. She had the chance to draw the line
between the Dems (her and Obama) and McLame over economic issues, and instead
she opted to side with Bomb Bomb over cultural issues.

:shakesheadindisbelief:
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biggerfishsmallpond Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:54 PM
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4. I can't wait for that day
Obama, Gore, Carter, Kerry, Richardson and hopefully Edwards on the stage together.

The revolution has begun.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:55 PM
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5. isn't this the same
Basically, isn't this the same as the old Right wing adage, "some people say"
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:57 PM
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6. I don't understand what you mean. The quote in the OP
by Clinton is hard to argue with. She does sound like she's no longer working towards Gore's support, and people are speculating why.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:17 PM
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8. what i mean is
She's not saying Gore & Kerry are elitist, it's the other people that are saying it.

That's the same thing as saying, Some people say Gore & Kerry are elitist.

When she's the one saying it, just trying to pawn it off on the mythical other person.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:19 PM
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9. Gotcha! She was in a bind; didn't have a surrogate around
to speak for her like she usually does, so she can then proclaim ignorance.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:05 PM
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7. It seems that Clinton has no class. Gore is a Democratic icon and a world figure.
If Hillary thought she had a chance to win Gore's endorsement she would be kissing his ass. My god, if Clinton somehow "got" the nomination and was elected, what a trainwreck her administrations would be. She seems to be willing to burn bridges and poison the water in an all-out no holds barred, scorched earth effort to get the nomination.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:19 PM
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10. You got it; I guess you don't need class to be elite. nt
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