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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 03:54 PM
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Anyone think Dems are going to start endorsing Dean to tap into the energy
for their own campaigns? The way I see it...any Democratic politician would be pretty dumb not to jump on this bandwagon in exchange for having Dean help them out with their own campaigns.

I'm expecting to see a lot more endorsements coming in the weeks to come.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 03:55 PM
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1. There's been three recent ones...
while nobody else has gotten endorsements in a long time.
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Thomas Jefferson Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 03:57 PM
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2. Dean is at the point where he's turning people off
His stances are unpopular with civil rights groups and labor.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 04:02 PM
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3. Care to back that up?
Edited on Wed Aug-27-03 04:15 PM by w13rd0
Because I say you are wrong. He's turning people off? Gee, that must be why I've met so many Missourians who are now excited about the prospect of being able to vote for Dean...

Gee, looks like just another hit and run. Any relation to Janklow<sp> perchance?
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 04:04 PM
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4. unpopular with civil rights groups?
talking about health insurance for everyone. Challenging Bush on racist code words like "quotas"?? His most recent endorsement by the way was by Major Owens, a liberal African-American congressman from NYC.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 04:05 PM
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6. All opinions are equally valid, but might I ask how you arrived at yours?
"Dean is at the point where he's turning people off"

Dean:

- raised $1M in 5 days on the internet

- spoke to crowds of 10,000 in NYC and 15,000 in Seattle

- is leading Kerry 38% to 17% in New Hampshire, according to the latest Zogby poll

- raised more money than any other candidate in Q2 and is set to do so again in Q3

- has over 92,000 regsiered MeetUp supporters (2nd place is a n essntial tie between Kerry, Kucinich and Clark with 9,500 to 9,900 each)

- has over 330,000 registered campaign supporters

Which people, exactly, is he turning off and is it fair to make a blanket statement that he's "at the point where he's turning people off" when his support is undisputedly growing?
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 04:06 PM
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7. Since when?
Civil Unions is a civil rights issue.
Dean received the AFL-CIO Wellstone Award not long ago.

Apparently drawing crowds of 10,000 to come hear him talk led you to believe that he's not popular.

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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 04:12 PM
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9. and you have a link I am sure
no wait silly me. Being a Dean basher means that you don't need them.
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 04:38 PM
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14. I've noticed you still have not replied with a link to back you up
I doubt that there is one.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 04:04 PM
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5. In CT, I know of some, but can't publisize at this point
The Dean Campaign is a moving train and betting get on it before you are left stranded at the station.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 04:11 PM
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8. HAHAH...tell that to Ernest Hollings.
Or to any Southern congressional candidate.

Sometimes bluestaters have no appreciation for what southern Dems have to endure on the campaign trail. Especially in a statewide campaign.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 04:14 PM
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10. Newsflash
Hollings isn't a candidate now. And BTW I would like a link as to what he said and an explanation as to what you are trying to say he said. Did he endorse Kerry? dis Dean? what? And yes I will want a link that quotes him.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 04:58 PM
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16. dsc has decided that blm is not entitled to an opinion.
TOUGH SHIT!
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 04:23 PM
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12. Right on Schedule...
No positive, upbeat Dean thread is complete until blm jumps in and tries to piss all over it.

It must really, really suck to have a candidate who's running such an inept campaign that you to have nothing better to do than troll threads about some other candidates successes to see if you can get your candidate a little bit of negative attention.

*YAWN*
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 04:24 PM
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13. It just occurred to me
In what region of the country do they put most of the military bases?

Suppose the Iraq war keeps on the way it has started and gets even worse. How will the military families and supporters in that region feel about the president who led us into war, and will they begin to see the wisdom of those who opposed that war?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 05:01 PM
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17. It's very tricky down here.
They are ingrained believers in the military mindset. Not exactly pro war warmongering types, just pro the "dignity" of service and the military itself. It helps to campaign cross state with a good cross of veterans and military men at your side.
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tsipple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 07:05 PM
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19. Dean Running Ads in South Carolina
Also ran ads in Texas. But who else is there? Edwards? Graham?
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 04:20 PM
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11. Not only can Dean himself help
but imagine all the meetups starting to discuss local candidates that Dean is "helping". While we're out flyering for Dean and such we could put in a good word for other candidates.
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bbmykel Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 04:46 PM
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15. Expanding the Grassroots
We attended Zoe Lofgren's (D-CA, the first Congressperson to endorse Dean and the first to blog!) annual BBQ fundraiser a few weeks ago (attired in our 'Deanwear' natch). Rep Lofgren indicated that they (meaning the campaign and Congressional Democrats I guess) were discussing selecting a few key Democratic candidates and highlighting them on the Dean For America website to see if they could get folks to give small donations (like $10). The definition of "key" seemed to be Democrats targeted for elimination by the Republicans or Democrats in districts where there was a vulnerable Republican. The theme that would be communicated would be that President Dean would need a Dem Congress in order to set the country on a better course.

If they decide to do this, this would be major (and something supporters of all Dem candidates should be excited about I would think--but I'm sure some will still manage to find fault :-p ).

The downside, of course, is that Dean is a long way from the nomination and it may be too early to try to expand the grassroots machine yet.

Mike
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 06:40 PM
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18. I can see Dem House reelection ads now
Help me get re-elected so I can help Howard Dean balance the budget and make sure all Americans have Health Care Insurance. I can hear the stump speeches now. Howard Dean this, Howard Dean that. LOL
Think they'll get blogs and a bat?
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tsipple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-03 07:08 PM
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20. Exactly!
The Democratic establishment has ten times the 1994 "Contract With America" enthusiasm and grassroots mobilization staring them right in the face, and some of them still don't get it. (Interestingly, Bill Clinton is catching on, based on some of his recent remarks.) If the GOP could do it in 1994 with far less, we can do it much better ten years later.
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