DeanFacts.com-The Governor in His own words:

Nicholas_J

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Mon Sep-29-03 03:22 PM
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DeanFacts.com-The Governor in His own words:

Dean on Medicare

On the need to cut Medicare "Dean said Congress should be willing to cut or slow growth in those programs ? 'We just would like to see some similar kind of backbone by the new leadership in Congress when it comes to Medicare, when it comes to Social Security and when it comes to defense.'"

On the 1995 Republican Medicare cuts "He applauded the efforts of Senate Budget Committee chairman Pete Domenici, R-Nev., who presented his own balanced budget plan last week? Dean also said he could defend Domenici's approach to reducing Medicare costs. He said he supported more managed care for Medicare recipients and requiring some Medicare recipients to pay a greater share of the cost of their medical services?
"'I fully subscribe to the notion that we should reduce the Medicare growth rate from 10 percent to 7 percent, or less if possible,' Dean said."

The cuts Dean described - reducing the rate of growth to 7 percent - was exactly what Newt Gingrich's budget proposed. This would cut at between $256 and $282 billion from Medicare: "Under the House and Senate plans, the annual rate of growth of Medicare spending would be cut from 10 percent to 7 percent? The Republicans say these changes would trim as much as $ 282 billion from Medicare.

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Larkspur

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Mon Sep-29-03 03:26 PM
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1. Liberal Oasis refutes Gephardt

Is Dean A Closet Newt Fan?
http://www.liberaloasis.com/archives/092103.htm#092603

<SNIP>
...it’s pretty clear where Dean was at:

Opposed to the cruelty and mismanagement of the GOP, but willing to cut spending in popular programs -- not gut them -- to balance the budget and not burden state services.

It’s certainly debatable whether or not Dean was right on those points, but he was not in lockstep with Newt and the anti-government GOP.
<SNIP>

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deutsey

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Mon Sep-29-03 04:10 PM
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10. Context always takes away that comfortable black and white

doesn't it?

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tsipple

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Mon Sep-29-03 04:58 PM
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13. Feed the Goal, Not the Trolls

Tired of all the weird, wacky trolls who never have anything nice to say? Who are always grumpy? And never factful?

Well, there's something you can do to put them out of their misery. Trolls for Dean is ready to take your pledge. So stop by right now and drop off a few bucks. You'll be glad you did, and even the trolls will figure it out soon enough.

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plindner

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Mon Sep-29-03 03:39 PM
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2. see dick throw stones

Someone just put up http://www.dickfacts.com/

LOL!

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Duder

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Mon Sep-29-03 04:29 PM
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12. LOL

Good site. :D

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Clovis Sangrail

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Mon Sep-29-03 03:40 PM
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3. spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam n/t

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Hawkeye-X

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Mon Sep-29-03 03:44 PM
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4. I officially discredit DeanFacts and Nicholas_J

I wish he'd learn to play nice and stop it.

Hawkeye-X

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molly

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Mon Sep-29-03 04:01 PM
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9. Play nice? Like you guys?

he should stop posting FACTS?

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acerbic

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Mon Sep-29-03 03:52 PM
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6. ...spam spam spam egg and spam; spam spam spam spam spam spam

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bluestateguy

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Mon Sep-29-03 03:49 PM
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5. Rove says thank you

How many people has Kerry provided health care for?

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molly

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Mon Sep-29-03 03:57 PM
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7. Kerry will have that opportunity SOON!

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molly

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Mon Sep-29-03 03:59 PM
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8. Ya know, Nick - they can dish it out but they sure can't face the

TRUTH!!!

Nick's post is facts - not conjecture - not opinion - just HISTORY - learn to live with your candidate's past and quit inventing him - he has a history - something noone can change.

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sandnsea

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Mon Sep-29-03 04:20 PM
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11. fingers in ears

I'm not listening, go away, I don't hear you, nani nani nani

Come on people. This is important stuff that we can't ignore. I've been having discussions with a doctor who is incredibly concerned about Dean's Medicare position. I don't know the answer on this Medicare stuff, it's complicated. But it isn't bashing for someone to post information.

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