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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:03 PM
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Al Hunt: Dean exudes inexperience, anger and pessimism
Wall Street Journal column, Al Hunt: Dean exudes inexperience, anger and pessimism

"More than ideology or issues, there are three qualities voters look for would-be presidents to convey: competence, strength and optimism. Dr. Dean, … (Democratic) party professionals fear, instead exudes inexperience, anger and pessimism." The ABCnote quotes the above and adds “ Dean's semiotic and rhetorical relationship with religion and the military”, and “the ultimate Democratic nomination fight question remains: will the qualities and weaknesses that Hunt's Democrats think will make Dean a disastrous general election candidate turn out to, come January, stop him”
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MiddleRiverRefugee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:08 PM
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1. Al Hunt can kiss my Democratic butt.
QED.
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:09 PM
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2. QED on top of that.
QED...x2.

Later.

RJS
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:10 PM
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3. gotta link?
I don't doubt you but would like to read entire article. Anyway, Al Hunt doesn't speak for me. When the pundits start digging at you I feel you are doing pretty well.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:23 PM
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6. WSJ is $79 for "links"
:-(
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:15 PM
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4. Isn't weakness the opposite of strength?
I feel a need as well to point out that Al Hunt also said in October of 2002 that if Walter Mondale ran for Senate from Minnesota, he would certainly win...

Al Hunt is also an impressive writer, which led me to wondering about this odd list comparison...

I thought it was odd comparing competence, strength and optimism to inexperience, anger, and pessimism. 1 and 3 are opposites...the 2s aren't necessarily related.

Anyhow...competence.

The Dean campaign has been the most impressive thus far that any Democrat has launched prior to the primaries. The most success in national gathering of supporters. The most success in raising money.

Strength.

5 time victories in Vermont vs. attacks about civil unions. No one in this country in a statewide executive position has signed a law supporting gay relationships and won an election afterward. Most would have said it couldn't be done. Howard Dean did. Most said his campaign was dead in the water less than a year ago. He didn't. The strength just keeps going stronger.

Optimism

How many times does Howard Dean have to say his campaign is about hope not fear? That is one of the lines that gets significant applause when people see him in person. I and many of his supporters see that clearly. It is the opponents that refuse to see it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:22 PM
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:30 PM
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7. Seems to be the Jeb/ Bush spin on Dean
and it's true- Dean exhibits anger a lot more readily than most any major candidate I've ever seen.
Some see it as good, but I think most will see it as bad- and I'm not talking about just Democrats.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:34 PM
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8. ...and he SHOULDN'T be angry. No, a good Democrat should NEVER be angry.
Fuck you, Hunt.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:21 PM
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17. Nope. The standard Democratic line is:
Yes sir, Mr. Bush!

How high would you like for me to jump this time, Mr. Bush?

Thank you, Mr. Bush, sir! May I please have another, please, sir (only make this one even harder than before, Mr. Bush, sir!).
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:48 PM
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9. Don't judge Hunt
he attributes the words to party insiders. Hunt is on record as likeing Dean so my guess is there is more to the story. Perhaps selective editing? Hunt is a "Captial Gang" panel member who has usually been pro-Dean
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mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:50 PM
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10. Or maybe
everybody on God's green earth doesn't think that Dean's stuff don't stink.

Believe it or not, it could happen.
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:51 PM
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11. I just wish he had been more careful in his writing...
Comparing anger and strength is apples to oranges in my book.

Also, we don't have a link yet, so there may definitely be more context.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:01 PM
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13. I agree - Hunt is a good DU type Dem - selective ABCnote editing ? yep!
Someday I'll spring for the $79 for internet access -

but now I only read what is quoted elswhere.

:-)

not that the ABCNote is right wing GOP biased .....

:-)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:16 PM
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38. Al Hunt a good DU type Dem? You are kidding me! He's a corporate/
entertainment/Media Whore.

I used to respect him way back when. But, then I used to respect Howie Kurtz and quite a few others, when I was naive. But, maybe it wasn't that way back then, I was really Naive, but that they starting making so much money from the "speaking engagements, the book deals, and some nice little consulting fees (unadmitted) from Ken Lay, that they were the one's who changed from what they used to be.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:56 PM
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12. They still DON'T get it......
Most Democratic voters in this country ARE angry----it's why Bush's ratings have slipped. God forbid we shouldn't be angry. God forbid a Democratic Governor from Vermont should be elected five times due to so-called "inexperience." Also, God forbid anyone should listen to Dean's Cooper Union Speech and find hope in what he said.....
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:17 PM
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16. Sometimes I'm angry. Other times I'm optimistic.
And I think the appeal to optimism is the one that's going to get the most people to vote for the Democrat in the general election.
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:54 PM
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28. Exactly...that's why Dean says over and over...
It's a campaign based on hope not fear.

Pretty optimistic, I think.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:56 PM
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29. 99% of his rhetoric doesn't match that slogan, and he only started saying
that recently, probably because he knows the rhetoric doesn't match the slogan.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:45 PM
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52. cognitive dissonance wins every time
it's no use.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:09 PM
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14. Dean is making a case for change.
When one is doing this, one needs to paint a scary picture, rile people to action, and run as an outsider. This is probably what Hunt is interpreting as "inexperience, anger, and pessimism." Contrary to Hunt, Dean has the right idea, though he gets clumsy on the specifics sometimes.

Lieberman, like a good "insider" candidate, does his best to exude strength, competence, and optimism, and it sounds wrong, as if his words didn't correspond to reality. One thinks, "if George Bush is so great, what is your motivation for being in this race?"
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:44 PM
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26. Also called demagoguery when we see a Republican act like that.
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 03:19 PM by blm
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:15 PM
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15. A profile in anger
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:02 PM
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30. This is the real face of the Dean campaign.
It looks like he's channeling George Wallace.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:27 PM
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19. I see it differently
I see Dean as being experienced, he has been in elective office for almost 20 years, I don't really see him as angry and he is definately not all the time if you actually follow him and his campagn. And the last thing I see him is pessimistic, I see optimism in his campaign for change, with him as President I see this country to be heading in the right direction.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:31 PM
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20. Dean sees himself as unreflective and in-your-face.
"When people get in my face, I tend to get in theirs," Dr. Dean said in the interview at The Times. "Al Sharpton was in my face last night and I was not going to step one step, half a step, backwards, and I don't care who's in my face.

"I tend to be reflective rather later than sooner," he added. "Now, unfortunately, we all know that nobody's personality is perfect. So the things that make me a strong candidate are also my Achille's heel."
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/06/politics/campaigns/06DEAN.html?hp


Maybe you should let him know he's wrong about himself.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:33 PM
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21. I said I don't see him as angry all the time
But obviously someone was in Dean's face and he went into Sharpton's face. I don't have a problem with it, but somehow Dean gets blamed for firing back at Sharpton who was obviously firing first at Dean.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:36 PM
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22. It's like Dean is trying to channel George Wallace
I've never had such bad feeling towards one of our candidates. I have a yellow dog friend from Mongomery who has lived in Atlanta for 20 years and everytime I bring Dean up he starts making chimp gestures and won't talk about him. Iguess we got our own Chimp in the Democratic party.
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:42 PM
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51. LOL
That's an interesting way to put it!
B-)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:41 PM
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:37 PM
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23. "Reightious" anger versus "PO'd" anger
There's a difference between the two. You can be angry, but you also have to be constructive with your anger. You can spend your time belittling Shrub, but you better have something substantive to replace it with.

I'm not too worried about this with Dean, as he's an experienced politician and can handle himself. It's some of his over-zealous supporters that worry me, the "win at all expense by any means necessary" types who seem to think that winning is the sole objective of any presidential candidacy. PLEASE NOTE that I said only SOME, not ALL, of his supporters (of which there are many, for good reason).
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:43 PM
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25. This is 'righteous' anger?
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:10 PM
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33. The original unedited photo is here....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=78003#78526

Post #30
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:33 PM
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35. Unfortunately, there is not a DU policy against doctoring photos...
I asked the mods...but this seems a clear case.

Opponents of Dr. Dean stooping very very low it seems.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:20 PM
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39. If it is so important to you to include CMB in the pic
Here:



So, CMB is laughing in the background of the picture. So what? What is she laughing at? Perhaps she's laughing at Dean making an idiot of himself. Maybe someone told her something funny. So she's laughing -- look at Sharpton -- he is the one being yelled at by Dean -- is he laughing?
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:49 PM
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41. Cajones!
That's my man! Anyone who's not afraid to get in Al Sharpton's face has a spine. Or are we to believe the repukes that democrats are not supposed to have those?
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:54 PM
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42. Gee Sharpton looks really impressed with what Dean is yelling at him.
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:56 PM
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43. Very hard to tell...he's not facing the camera...
Looks like he's possibly about to burst out laughing to me.

You really really blew it with me.

I don't trust any spew from you on a candidate you oppose.

No trust at all.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 05:06 PM
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44. Sharpton gets another lecture from Dean about race.


Yeah, he looks impressed.
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:48 PM
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27. Hunt's comments were not positive on any other candidates either...
Here's another quote from his piece:

"To be fair, not one of the other Democratic aspirants -- a shaky consensus is starting to emerge that Dick Gephardt is the most probable chief rival to Dr. Dean -- excites these party professionals."


Earlier in the article, the 'party professionals' referenced above were explained as...

"These Democrats are, with a few exceptions, non-Washingtonians, uncommitted to any presidential candidate and most spoke on background to be more candid."

It is an interesting article, but the basic gist is we don't have a winner among any of them.

I do disagree.

pg. A15, "The Wall Street Journal" November 6, 2003
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karlspur Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:04 PM
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31. Dean also exudes bad parenting
His son is theif! He was driving the get away car while his gang members stole liquor from his father's exclusive, no blacks allowed, country club. He is not just some common drunk, he is an upper crust country club theif
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:44 PM
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36. The Deans are not members. Get your facts straight.
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 04:12 PM by MercutioATC
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/06/22/dean.son/

Nor is the Burlington Country Club a "whites-only" club.
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karlspur Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:47 PM
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40. I used heavy sarcasm
But it doesn't negate from the facts that Howard Dean's son and his gangmember friends are country club thiefs.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 07:08 PM
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55. It IS true that Dean's son committed a crime. It is also true that it was
a first offense and has been dealt with by the courts. Despite the fact that Dean took time off from his campaign to be with his family because of this incident, you are still free to think that it makes him a bad father.

What you can't do without being called on it is to make completely baseless attacks on a candidate implying that he's a racist. That's not "heavy sarcasm", it's blatently lying.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 07:15 PM
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56. Don't fret it too much
The poster to whom you replied has been tombstoned.

I agree it's really low to attack a candidate on a personal level. It might be relevent, but even the world's greatest parents may have kids that end up doing stupid stuff.

Now a candidate's record and/or positions on the issues, OTOH... :evilgrin:

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 07:39 PM
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60. Before you start bashing Dems you better
know what you are talking about. This is a clear case of gratuitous lying.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:31 PM
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34. It's awesome that Al Hunt wants to divide our party.
If Dean is our nominee, the GOP can run attack adds showing other "Democrats" attacking him. Thanks Al Hunt. Now go fuck yourself you piece of vile horse shit.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 05:50 PM
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47. Like Dividing The Party Into Wings?
Give me just a tiny break. Dean's "Bush Lite" comments (over and f'n over) is no better than Nader saying the Dems and Pubs are no different.
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:36 PM
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50. They're all...
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:57 PM
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37. His flag comments also show that he is at least insensitive if not
out and out racist. NOt the kind of guy we want representing our party.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 05:14 PM
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45. Dean has become the Bush of our party.
Divide, Divide, Divide. His supporters now have a litmus test. Your either with Dean or against beating Bush. You people are getting more and more ridiculous. Don't you find it strange that the supporters of all the other candidates get along just fine, but Dean supporters trash anybody who disagrees. It's getting really ridiculous. I'll vote Bush out, but I most people are not like me. The only leading Howard has done so far is inspire Dems to let go of ABB with his my supporters are not transferable and his way of trash and cry politics.
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 05:19 PM
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46. I get along well with Kucinich supporters...
And I'm just seeing hate-filled spew now from those who oppose Dean.

Bill Clinton got the same thing when he was getting close to being the presumptive nominee.

I'm so thankful major unions, the public in early primary states and across the country are not as hate-filled and deceptive as some here.

I'm gone for the day.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:25 PM
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48. That's a REALLY low blow
There are other candidates I don't care for, but would NEVER compare to shrub. Geez, the animosity here.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:30 PM
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49. Dean compares his oppenents to Bush all the time
Ever heard of Bush-Lite.

Al Hunt says what he thinks of Dean and he's now pro-Bush. That's ridiculous. I am not hateful, just getting sad that if Dean is the candidate we will have 4 more years of Bush. After Bush beats Dean, I will just stop paying attention cause I will need to start focusing even more on saving my family from the damage Bush will do to our lives.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:46 PM
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53. Why was it alright for Dean to call good Democrats Bushlite?
And those Democrats had records way to the left of Dean's actual centrist record.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:57 PM
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54. That's what happens
when you stand in the Rose Garden with the "president", and/or you vote to give him unprecedent powers, or when you are too intimidated to speak out, even though you are a leader in the democratic party.

Look, I still like and would vote for any of those guys that I myself have called bush-lite (BEFORE Dean did, BTW). I don't blame them for being doormats; it's the atmosphere this administration has created where anyone who dares question the emperor gets flamed. But as leaders in party it was up to them to speak out forcefully against shrub -- it was not the job of a former governor of a small New England state. The fact that Dean has consistently called shrub on a number of issues (the economy, Iraq, the patriot act) BEFORE it was fashionable is what drew me initially to his campaign, and it's his constant risk-taking that keeps me there.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 07:54 PM
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62. Dean - consistent?
Dean:Saddam must be disarmed, but with a multilateral force under the auspices of the United Nations. If the U.N. in the end chooses not to enforce its own resolutions, then the U.S. should give Saddam 30 to 60 days to disarm, and if he doesn't, unilateral action is a regrettable, but unavoidable, choice.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/02/20/dean/index2.html


Dean:"In Iraq, I would be prepared to go ahead without further Security Council backing if it were clear the threat posed to us by Saddam Hussein was imminent, and could neither be contained nor deterred."
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/dean/dean021703sp.html

Dean:"never been in doubt about the evil of Saddam Hussein or the necessity of removing his weapons of mass destruction."
http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/000395.html


MR. RUSSERT: The battle of Tora Bora was successful?
GOV. DEAN: I've seen others criticize the president. I think it's very easy to second-guess the commander-in-chief at a time of war. I don't choose to engage in doing that.
http://www.bankofknowledge.net/2004/archives/2002_07.html



Dean: "It's hard to criticize the president when you've got troops in the field" Dean to ease up on Bush
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 08:46 PM
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64. Yup. C-O-N-S-I-S-T-E-N-T...
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 08:47 PM by mzmolly
"Consistent"

Again, that cognitive distortion 'all or nothing' thinking is not doing you well Fean...

Edited consistent spelling error.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 08:54 PM
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65. Attacking me won't change Dean's statements
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 08:55 PM by Feanorcurufinwe
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 01:48 PM
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67. And attacking DU members won't change Kerry's poll numbers....
What's the point?
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:53 PM
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69. And attacking DU members won't make Dean into an honest person...
What's the point?
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 08:39 PM
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63. Merely pointed out that they have failed the American people by sucking
up to Chimpy and the Republicans. Voting for war with Bush made them defacto Bush-Lite. Just pointing out their failures. Constructive criticism.

Dean '04...The Teacher!!
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 07:28 PM
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57. Where does this come from?
Dean is the frontrunner. They all think that if they can knock him down, they will suddenly take his place. In the real world, the supporters actually get along just fine.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 07:29 PM
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58. al hunt is a judy woodruff loving
smuck.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 07:33 PM
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59. Good, the "experienced" "happy" "optimistic" folks are not doing well by
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 07:34 PM by mzmolly
the American people. I'm angry and pessimistic under this administration too. YOU?

DEAN IN 04!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 07:41 PM
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61. Touche!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 01:43 PM
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66. Since that describes most successful people
good luck attracting their unhappy counterparts.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 02:54 PM
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68. Funny thing...the rest of the WSJ team seem to like Dean.
Edited on Fri Nov-07-03 02:55 PM by blm
I wonder why Al Hunt disagrees with the others.
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