IMHO, the "Dean has it wrapped up" meme is being floated

to give all Democrats "buyer's second guessing" AKA "purchaser's anxiety" (AKA something else I can't think of because I have brain lock) early enough in the hopes that this will jump start someone's/anyone's campaign. Furthermore, this meme is also an attempt to make ANY decent showing by ANY other candidate some huge, incredibly newsworthy swing in momentum.

Watch and see, folks. If Dean wins, it'll be only because we'll have fought and scratched our way to the slimmest of victories -- against whomever the media annoits as his golden boy competitor.

but a bit overanalytical.

Seems like these kinds of games are played by campaigns occasionally, to little or no net effect.

CONCORD – Democratic presidential front-runner Howard Dean warned his supporters against complacency Thursday after officially signing up to be on the ballot of the first-in-the-nation primary.

“There have been a lot of people who have come to this capital with leads in the polls thinking, ‘This is great.’ They are unstoppable, and you know what happened to them,” Dean told about 300 supporters at a brief rally outside the Statehouse.

“The only way that we cannot be stopped is if you will not be stopped, if you will go out and knock on doors every day and bring undecided people to the Dean for America campaign.”
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“We can win in New Hampshire. We can take this country back. Never quit – this is about us working together. I am not going to the White House, we are going to the White House,” Dean said to cheers from the crowd waving blue-and-white “Dean for America” signs.

http://nashuatelegraph.com/Main.asp?SectionID=25&SubSectionID=354&ArticleID=93475

here at DU -- from Dean supporters. Dean supporters have been telling all the rest of us for months that he will win and there's no way to stop him.

I found it associated only with someone named Rothenburg, whose article is only at a pay site so I can't read it.

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Sure, buddy, whatever makes you feel better.

CAN ANYONE STOP DEAN?

meme? And where have you heard it, aside from DU?

By the way, YOU may have heard it elsewhere but I haven't.

Who can stop Dean?

Can anyone beat Dean?

Can anyone catch Dean?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=85801

Pundits Call a Winner, a Bit Prematurely

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=84293

about whatever candidate is perceived to be the front-runner. If someone seems to have a big lead, they ask "Can anything stop X?" and "Can anyone catch X?" Why do you see this time as any different? Why is it worse than Dean supporters at DU saying he has it wrapped up, nobody can beat him, etc.? I don't get what you're complaining about.

I'm simply saying that this meme is full of it.

And once he made Time and the rest of the mags, as well as out fundraised the rest of the Dems last quarter, the media has been pushing the frontrunner status.

My point is long term Dean supporters believed (and hoped) Dean could win, and since it has begun to happen, now the media takes up that message.

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...and the bragging has been going on here at DU forever it seems.

My bet is there wasn't a group of 20-30 volunteers for any other of the Democratic candidates in Chicago stuffing 7,000 letters for a benefit concert like we were...with hired staff and large office space for the campaign already.

Dean's campaign has a jumpstart on the others in states all across the country.

He took most of his last year of Governor off work to go out on the trail, honing his stump speech.

Wonder if he got paid for that year? I hope it wasn't much.

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in office. He was out of state so much, campaigning for the presidency, that they wanted to see the schedule and his office wouldn't divulge it. The paper won.

For their no-show time in the Senate?

Particularly on the final vote on the $87 billion to Iraq...only Robert Byrd was there.

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And getting the "Anything But Dean" bandwagon instead.

Who, in fairness, should be attacking Kerry and Edwards as well for time away from the Senate.

just pointing out that he did indeed get quite a head start... so he could go out on the campaign trail.

Is that why they were away?

If so, then as soon as their supporters start boastfully braying about how great they're doing and why ... I'll be the first to speak up about their hitting the campaign trail early.

It's free time off from the State of Vermont?

I definitely don't expect opponents to recognize a strong, well-run campaign.

Did Dean miss signing legislation?
Did Dean not lobby for policy actions he wanted?
Did Dean fail to execute any part of his office?

Did Kerry any of the other contenders fail to make a vote due to campaigning?

I know if someone has a job I expect them to show up and do it. Maybe he's so close to being GOD incarnate that he was able to miss so much time and yet he was able to effecitvely do his job AND campaign around the country.

Again, don't know, don't care... I have other reasons to ignore him.

DK has an excellent record of showing up...there are other candidates besides Howard Dean who have questionable records of showing up to do their jobs.

But I understand, it's "Anything But Dean" time...throw as much garbage as possible, and see what sticks.

Saying 'there are other candidates equally bad or worse' is not going to sell me.

It's not "Anything but Dean" time... it's TRY TO GET THE BEST time.

missed campaign debates in order to be in the House when a vote was coming up.

minutes or so. Thanks!

The corporate media "annointed" Dean as soon as he ATTACKED the other Democratic candidates and the Democratic party.

Dean made their jobs so much easier. Guess you forgot the "media" gave Dean a press plane last June.

Got a link for that? My my my but that would make his relationship with corporate media look oh so cozy.

Coverage that put him in place as the winner last winter.

This is one of the reasons why Kerry is not the best candidate...his campaign can't hold the attention of the media. We need a candidate who can work with the media in order to defeat Bush.

And we got 8 years of Democratic administration...

Whining that the media doesn't like you doesn't cut it for a top-level presidential candidate.

Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter proved that the media will cover a strong Democratic nominee. If the media are covering Dean - Dean's campaign is doing a great job.

If the media are not covering a candidate...then the candidate has work to do.

But what we got from Clinton was 8 years of a further slide to the right. Picture it this way... in the 12 years under Reagan bush, they shoved us a mile to the right. Clinton pushed back about 1/4 mile, and much too gently at that. He presided over a loss of seats in both houses and furthered the notion that there is no difference between the parties.

Nobody is whining. People are starting to suspect why some Democrats seem so ready to embrace the same media which helped lie us into an illegal war.

You have the right to believe that the media is honorable and that Dean's attention and any favors bestowed onto him by said media comes without a taint of filth. I have the right to disagree, vehemently.

It is a business, however, and whining about it will win no national elections.

You've definitely caught me on a bad day about Kucinich supporters after an entire thread of a Kucinich supporter spreading rightwing lies from the American Spectaor and supporting it as legitimate campaign tactics...no disagreeing Kucinich supporter in sight.

Dennis definitely has the advantage over some of his supporters in the category of being honorable.

Sorry, but it isn't just a business. It's a corrupted business. So corrupted that this 'business' is liable for setting the groundwork so the US could launch an illegal war.

As you, I am also tired to the extreme of Dean's supporters continually proclaiming that the race is over, that we should all get in line, that there is no doubt he can win, ad nauseam.

I don't agree that posting lies is legitimate. However, if those 'lies' are nothing more than skewed versions of the truth, then clearly a closer examination is warranted.

I take it you're referring to the thread regarding Dean giving $30 Million to prisons at the same time he was cutting $30 Million from their oh so horrible budget. Sorry, but no amount of 'whining' over the multiples the author of said article used in order to make the point seem more disgusting will make it any less disgusting.

Vermont is supposed to have low crime, no? It's a rural state, yes? And Dean's history of hostility to the public defenders office is a matter of public record, yes?

So to defend his massive outlay (this could have paid for a whole new prison!) is, to me, ridiculous. The man has demonstrated, IMO, that he's susceptible to corruption. He took the better part of a year off from his paid job as Governor and for some reason his supporters expect his success to be hailed as attributable to nothing more than his 'go getting' attitidue. I'm not fooled.

He had a plane given to him by the corrupted media you seem so willing to label as 'just another business', and that is just another black mark on his record.

Mark my words, he is being helped into this charade of a primary season. Not by the Dean supporters, but by those with much larger stakes in the game.

Dean, honorable? Not IMO.

that had no bearing on reality that's been floating around.