National Quinnipiac Poll: Dean leads by nine-points

In the race for the Democratic nomination, Howard Dean has taken a nine-point lead nationally.

Dean: 22% (13% in October)
Lieberman 13% (no change)
Clark 12% (17% in October)
Gephardt 9% (12% in Ocbober)
Kerry 8% (10% in October)
Sharpton 8% (5% in October)
Edwards 5% (8% in October)
Braun 3% (no change)
Kucinich 2% (3% in October)
Undecided 18%

George W. Bush has a 51% approval rating 43% disapproval rating (no change since October when it was 51-42). However he is doing marginally better against all the Democratic candidates than he was in October.

**Clark loses to Bush by 50-41 percent, compared to 47-43 in October.
**Dean loses to Bush by 51-40 compared to 48-42 in October.
**Kerry loses to Bush by 51-39 compared to 49-43 in October.
**Lieberman loses to Bush by 51-40 compared to 48-43 in October.
**Gephardt loses to Bush 53-38 compared to 49-43 in October.
**Bush would defeat Hillary Clinton by 50-44.

Part of the problem for Democrats is that Bush gets between 91-93 percent of the GOP vote while Democratic candidates are only getting between 68-73 percent of the Democratic vote with Bush receiving between 16-21 percent of Democratic vote.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x701.xml

not suprised by the results. I think with Dean as the nominee Bush will get more than 16-21 percent of the Democratic vote once the voters get a hard look at Dean.

was as dismissive of Dean as anybody and it is due to the savvy of Dean's campaign that he has gotten where he is. Look at the results no one is beating Bush at this point, but Bush is not leading overwhelmingly either.

None of our candidates will wind up looking like 'a knight in shining armor', so this crap about Dean not 'standing up to closer scrutiny' is just that--- crap and fear-mongering by non-Dean supporters. Trust me, whatever candidate YOU support would wind up looking JUST as 'bad' next fall.

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The treatment Gore got at the hands of the so-called "liberal" media will be repeated in 2004 no matter who we nominate.

16%+ of Dem vote goes to Bush no matter who the nom is according to the poll--WTF is wrong with those people?! Why do they call themselves Democrats? Seems to track through all the Bush approval questions, hard core right wing element-its a paradox.

Two other tidbits from that poll-
1) Clark and Dean numbers all most exactly the same in the demographic breakdown but interestingly
2) Clark polling slightly better among women than Dean. Where's that gender gap?

Of course polls are bushwa, especially when they show my candidate going down 5%. :-)

is shown by these poll results. I figure one reason you see this is because people aren't sure who the Democratic nominee is. We must all promise to forget our differences once the nominee is chosen and we must ALL work to bring out the vote. And we do that by educating the public, one voter at a time. I think that the truth is made known about how Bush has screwed the American people, Dems will sweep the White House.

From the bottom up.

Get to know your local reporters and your local newspaper. Speak to them as human beings doing a job - help them with story leads on local Democrats - don't treat them as faceless entities that are part of some inhuman machine.

Send respectful letters, even in disagreement, to larger national media as well. Point out disagreements with facts backed up with positive emotion.

I know I'm probably writing to a wall, basically...but in my job, I've almost universally had positive results when I speak to media people locally in a friendly, respectful manner. And I've had nearly universally negative results when I simply go on the attack.

these 16-21% of the Democratic party voters who would vote for Bush?
I just don't get it.


Find them and give them the mind probe.

Get the Dems back who have obviously given up on the party, at least at the national level.

I know here in CA we have plenty of conservative Dems, in the valleys and east (away from the coast).

The irony is that they would probably like Dean, he's not the raging liberal that he's portrayed as.I

I still have a hard time imagining any Dem voting for Bush (why don't they just abstain if they don't like the Dem candidate?), but they must be out there.