Bushies keen on Dean as W's ideal foe

Bushies keen on Dean as W's ideal foe

By THOMAS M. DeFRANK
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF

WASHINGTON - White House political strategists believe Howard Dean has a hammerlock on the 2004 Democratic nomination - and they're trying hard not to gloat about it.
Senior Bush political managers have been ordered to curb their cockiness but many of them privately say President Bush has drawn the opponent of his dreams in Dean - a left-leaning Democrat they contend can be tarred as a latter-day George McGovern.

"The best thing Bush has going for him is that Dean is a weak Michael Dukakis," a key Bush official told the Daily News. "Dukakis won 10 states. Unless things turn very bad for Bush, I don't see Dean winning more than five."

The source concedes New York and California to Dean, and presumably his home state of Vermont, but does not spell out where else the Democrat could win.

more at link

http://www.nydailynews.com/12-10-2003/news/politics/story/144493p-127803c.html

watch out what you wish for....you might get it
these idiots are grossly underestimating the grass roots out there

http://www.nydailynews.com/12-10-2003/news/politics/story/144493p-127803c.html

Bushies keen on Dean
as W's ideal foe



By THOMAS M. DeFRANK
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF

WASHINGTON - White House political strategists believe Howard Dean has a hammerlock on the 2004 Democratic nomination - and they're trying hard not to gloat about it.

Senior Bush political managers have been ordered to curb their cockiness but many of them privately say President Bush has drawn the opponent of his dreams in Dean - a left-leaning Democrat they contend can be tarred as a latter-day George McGovern.<snip>

But Team Bush believes that Dean's support for same-sex unions, abortion rights and higher taxes not only energizes the conservative Republican base but turns off independent voters.<snip>


In addition, "Dean will never pass the leadership threshold test," another Bush adviser argued. "He comes across as a morally superior liberal elitist who isn't ready to be President."<snip>

COMMENT- now why would the GOP plant a story that they like Dean because he would be easy, but they can not talk about it?

:-)

And as always, the ABCNote carries GOP water by saying "There are at least seven people affiliated with the Bush-Cheney campaign who are more familiar with Dean's record as Vermont governor than he is — and can talk about it on terms that will be very compelling to the American people." With the Daily News joining the Wall Street Journal in dumping on Dean in contradiction to "WhiteHouse orders to help Dean win nomination.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/144540p-127806c.html Ten things you should know about Howard Dean : Dean was a New York baby, born in the old Doctors Hospital in Manhattan. His father, Howard, worked on Wall Street for 25 years and the family lived on Park Ave. while Dean was young. His mother, Andree, stayed home with the four Dean boys. He says, “I feel I really grew up in East Hampton ,” where he played hockey on a pond behind his house in the winter and “baseball and Ballantine” in the summer - once he was 18. Dean attended some of the most exclusive schools in the country. At age 13, he was sent to St. George’s School in Newport, R.I. After graduating from high school, he was enrolled in an English boarding school and traveled through much of Europe and North Africa. He later graduated from Yale. The anti-war candidate flunked his draft physical at Fort Hamilton in Brooklyn because of an unfused vertebra. He concedes he then took a construction job in Colorado, where “all I did was work and ski.” His brother Charlie was killed in Laos during the Vietnam War. Dean’s parents say Charlie was a CIA agent; his bones were recently repatriated. After trying Wall Street and not liking it, Dean opted for a career in medicine and attended Einstein College of Medicine in the Bronx, where he met his wife, Judy Steinberg. They shared a medical practice for years, but she has never campaigned with him. Dean says his patients preferred being treated by his wife.Like President Bush, Dean abruptly quit drinking. Dean’s epiphany came when he woke up hung-over at age 33, the day after his bachelor party. He migrated to Burlington, Vt., in 1978 to begin his residency - after not getting into any of his first three choices. He began his political career there. Dean was Vermont’s lieutenant governor in 1991, when Gov. Dick Snelling died. Dean remained governor until 2002, when he decided to run for President.He has two teenage children, Anne and Paul. Paul was recently arrested for being the getaway driver for other teens who broke into a country club bar. Dean was born a Catholic, but now lists his faith as Congregationalist, although he does not attend church regularly.


The ABCNote continues the dump on Dean tone -claiming the Globe takes Dean to task over the what is Bush hiding on 911 - when that is not what the Globe did - it just noted that BUSH KNEW is an incendiary rumor - and questions if Dean should give it air time if he does not think the rumor credible - forgetting that stalling the 911 commission MAKES THE RUMOUR CREDIBLE.And as always, the ABCNote tries to insert in the media mind set that did will not "win"states - so on Feb 3 they should only do stories about delegate accumulation.

:-)

Dean is Dukakis. Dean is McGovern. Bushco wants Dean to win.

Yawn.

If they think we are only going to win three states...

They can spin this all they like...Anyone of the top Dems are all polling well within the MOE in all the major swing states....

There's an old saying...be careful what you wish for!!

And they might be happy, but all the repugs I run into are getting depressed and distressed...their usual bluster is gone....there's no fight in them right now...

They were especially destressed about the USSC decision upholding McCain-Feingold....

:evilgrin:

Don't let what your enemy thinks determine your strategy...that's why we keep losing!!!

Make your own destiny.....this should just piss you off even more and get our collective asses out on the streets between now and Nov.!!!

RE:
Election 2004: Why Dean Can Win, September 2003

A recent article by David Brooks left readers with the distinct impression that Republican pollsters are all of the opinion that Howard Dean cannot possibly beat George Bush. We regret that he didn’t check with us first, as it is our belief that Dean has the potential to be a formidable candidate who could give the President a very difficult race.

The conventional wisdom that has some Republicans giddy about a potential Dean candidacy is not only misguided, it is counterproductive. Writing off a candidate like Dean by selectively sorting statistical gobble-de-gook and mixing it into a broth of “empirical” sociological evidence ignores the political realities of our time.

Howard Dean can win because he believes in what he is saying, because he can semi-legitimately spin his record as Governor into one of fiscal conservatism, and because he comes across as if he actually cares about people. We don’t know what the issues will be 14 months from now. Perhaps the economy will be rolling and the President will be soaring. If that’s the case, no one can beat him.

But there is the potential for the economy to remain sluggish and stagnant and conditions in the Middle East are impossible to predict. Should these situations remain status quo or worsen, America will be looking for someone new, someone fresh, someone who can shake America out of the doldrums and reinvigorate the body politic. Dean would provide solutions and excitement where the other Democrats, while perhaps polished and attractive, are not as convincing because they don’t have the perceived conviction of a Howard Dean. more..............

http://www.moore-info.com/Poll_Updates/2004%20Election%20%20Why%20Dean%20can%20win%20Sept%2003.htm

They even chart it out on the page linked

But, please, please, lets make some sober judgements regarding the general election. DEAN SAILS ONLY AMONG DEMOCRATS. Fundamentals of his record, his personality, and his lack of national security experience, make him very vulnerable. No study or analysis I have seen shows how Dean will be able survive the Republican attacks. If there is ONE national poll that shows Dean beating bush please post it. Poll show that both Kerry and Clark can beat Bush. DEAN NEVER COMES CLOSE. This despite the fact that Dean gets more national free publicity than any other candidate. Here is a recent and thoughtful analysis that appeared in the Philidelphia Daily News:

http://www.opednews.com/atkins_1203_kerry.htm

Nothing in Dean’s background indicates any military experience, national security experience or foreign policy experience that could be used to defend his credibility as Commander-In-Chief in this tense post-9/11 environment. Deans CIC credentials are very much BUSH-LITE.

I campaigned for Jerry Brown against "slick willie" to the bitter end in 1992. Dean is no Jerry Brown in terms of liberal record or visionary ideas. Dean has an abominable "politics as usual" record of supporting the NRA, death penalty lobby, and whatever special interest position that could get him re-elected.

Vermont voter say of their former governor “he never saw a welfare program he did not want to cut.” As governor Dean made major cuts in aid to education, retirement funds for teachers and state employees, health care, Medicaid benefits, and welfare programs earmarked for the aged, blind and disabled, all under the cloak of “fiscal responsibility”.

The REAL DEAN was supporting Bush's Irac policy before his campaign manager hit him over the head and led him over to the anti-war position. The REAL DEAN is not worth loosing another election over.

Oh, Lord, won't you find me a WMD?
My friends won't send forces, or money to me.
Looked hard under sand dunes; there's nothing to see,
So Lord, won't you find me a WMD?

Oh, Lord, won't you find me some chemicals, please?
France and Australia are laughing back at me.
I wait for intelligence each day until three,
So Lord, won't you find some banned chemicals, please?

Oh, Lord, won't you buy me a fight in Iran?
There's oil in there, Lord; please give me their sand.
Prove that you love me and buy me a plan,
Oh, Lord, won't you find me a fight in Iran?

Oh, Lord, won't you find me a WMD?
The Dems might just rally and get off their knees.
Elections are coming; there's nothing to see,
So Lord, won't you find me a Dubya MD?

nominated in 1980 thinking he would be the easiest to beat. Or when the GOP was gloating about Bill Clinton's nomination thinking he would be the easiest to beat. Take this with a grain of salt. I say if Dean wins the nomination he has earned it, how can someone who can't even get his parties nomination be stronger than the one who does?

Exude supreme confidence despite the facts.

Of course, Dean and his thousands of supporters are also supremely confident. Realistic, determined, but confident.

This assertion was just waiting for the name of the front runner no matter who that may have turned out to be.

Makes sense in Jan. '03...not too funny today.

Dean '04...

Hmm, Kerry isn't the opponent that *ush is; Kerry is from the same part of the country that Dean is.

I am not convinced that Dean will lose to B*sh. Then again, I'm not convinced he won't.

I AM convinced that Clark will beat Bu*h, on foreign policy, on character, and most importantly, among independents and Republicans who are looking for an alternative to Bus*.

I don't think you can take 1-1 polls, ***h vs. name-your-democrat at face value, no matter who the Democrat is. However, every B*** vs. Dem poll I've seen taken at the national level, by an unbiased polling methodology, shows Dean having less success against *us* than the other major Democrats. I don't think that message should be ignored.

There is something different about Dean, something that doesn't play well against ****. If B*SH** wins, we won't be eating crow; we'll be eating Mercury, Arsenic, Carbon Monoxide, ....

Mr. Dean, show us that you can do better at beating Bush in the polls than the other contenders. Show us that you can compete with Bush outside the states that Gore won last election. Show us that you can finish what you've started. Tell us what you will do as President to improve our current situation, both at home and abroad.

What I want is a good Democrat that I can vote for, one we can be sure will beat B@#*$h. Show us that is who you are by January 15, and I'll vote for you in the Washington state caucus. So far, I see Clark as better at beating *ushrub than you are. So far, I see Clark as the kind of leader I want America to have, no matter who his oppponent is. Show us why to vote for YOU, not just against little George.

If you can show me that, Mr. Dean, I'll vote for you.

"brevity is the soul of wit" thing to you.

I'm neither witty nor brief.

But I'll be too happy to gloat about it.