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illini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:25 PM
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Is it possible to overestimate Rhandi Rhodes' overestimation.....
of her own self importance. Don't get me wrong I enjoy her show. However, her jealousy of Al Franken's popularity and backhanded attacks on persons she has a person beef with really make for a crappy show.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:25 PM
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1. Uhhh I think Randi is just as popular as Franken
and a better radio host.
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:28 PM
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2. I agree. Personally,
I can't listen to Franken.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:14 PM
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10. Me either nt
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 06:41 PM
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9. Truman tried for free dr's plan, but AMA nixed it
Truman was a hero.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:29 PM
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3. She is great, but perhaps feels insecure because she gets so much less
Edited on Tue May-31-05 04:29 PM by BrklynLiberal
attention than Al Franken and she has been in the radio business so much longer than he has. She seems to get treated like the second-class citizen sometimes when she is the most experienced radio personality at the station.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:31 PM
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4. It's certainly possible to overestimate Randi's estimation of her
Edited on Tue May-31-05 04:32 PM by tridim
own self importance.

Here's a hint.. IT'S A JOKE! I think her faux ego shtick is hilarious.
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illini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:58 PM
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12. Here is another hint my post wasnt.
Joke or not I dont like it. Thanks for your post.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:37 PM
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5. It's part of her whiny everybody-is-out-to-get-me act.
She is a tough hard ass woman, and quite an actor.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:45 PM
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6. I would rather listen to Rhandi than Franken any day...
However, Franken was awesome on the last Bill Maher show. If he would show that much enthusiasm in his radio show, maybe I could stand to listen to it.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 04:58 PM
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7. I no longer listen to Franken - he always make a joke
in response to a question or comment. He would rather get the laugh than get out the information. I never miss Randi.
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illini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 09:04 PM
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13. I disagree.
Franken repeats the facts and often with a joke thrown in. That helps to create a memory tool for the listener. Plus, Franken is a COMEDIAN/radio host pundit. Franken isn't the issue Randi beating up people on her own team. If someone endorses Shrub or something of that nature I say rake'em over the coals but other than that let it go.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:17 PM
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8. My take is that Randi Rhodes is fully self-aware
of herself and her situation(s).

She is self-deprecating, which makes it all good with me.

While I love everyone on Air America Radio, Ms. Rhodes is the foundation on which it stands. she's been plugging away at this radio gig for years. She's the expert, and what's more, she is uniquely talented. Air America never bothered to promote her as such.

I'm fully aware of the innate unfairness of an experienced pro getting less credit and acknowledgment for her work than a better known individual who does not have the same expertise in the field.

It doesn't bother me if that is hinted at from time to time, particularly when it is humorously put. In fact, for myself, her humor is what turns it all to gold.

I enjoy all of Air America, but if I'm not in the mood to hear any particular segment--for whatever reason--I turn it down, or turn it off. Radio is an intimate, personal medium.

One listener's "crap" is another one's "gold".



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illini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:56 PM
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11. My purpose with this post was not to have a Rhandi vs Franken poll.
My purpose was to point out the one thing that irks me about her show. She is pissed that Franken got a majority of the press early on and is still more recognized for his previous celebrity. Rhandi is all about "Rhandi" sometimes and that spills over onto her relations with her comrades, callers, and her ego. Again, I enjoy her show but I don't like this aspect of her that spills over onto the radio. Her attitude toward others(people on her side) is all about how much they are detracting from her getting all the attention. The show today 5/31 was just one example. I cant count the number of times that a caller agreed with her but not for the right reason.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 03:59 AM
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14. I've got news for you,
if you don't like Randi's "attitude", then Randi's not for you. :-)

It really is the truth. She likely won't be changing anytime soon to please you in this regard.

Everyone in radio has an ego. You have to if you believe you're worth listening to for four hours.

You'll forgive me, but the following does not at all sound like someone who "enjoys" her show "...Her attitude toward others(people on her side) is all about how much they are detracting from her getting all the attention." And I have a question, what is meant by agreeing with someone "for the right reason"?

If she moaned about unfairness at work everyday at length, you'd have a point, and I would agree with you. But my own observation tells me you really aren't making your case.

The "one thing that irks" you is rather pervasive, to read your take on it. So why not be at peace with yourself and step away from the Randi Rhodes Show?

It will be less irksome for us all, and we'll always have Al to share in peace and harmony. :-)
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illini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:09 AM
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15. Wow you have totally missed my point.
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 10:11 AM by illini
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Instead of beating up people on her side she should concentrate on the people screwing up the country.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:11 PM
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16. I haven't missed the points you've made here thus far.
I don't hear her "beating up" people on "her side."

I've heard her chiding Biden for his inconsistency, I've heard her trounce callers when they contradict themselves and I've heard her pound folks who are Freeptards posing as Dems.

There is nothing wrong with pointing out such things, and I could see your point with any beef ya' got with Randi if you would only make the case. what are the beatings you've witnessed? How often do they occur? Please, give examples. You are going to have to convince me against my own observations.

I culled your points from what you posted. you write that there is one thing that irks you, which is that she is "jealous", and then you continue on to state that she is "beating up" some unidentified group of "comrades" and "callers". Comrades? hmm, okay. But that is two things, not one. and when you write that she is "all about" something you see as negative, it means that you see that negativity as being pervasive.

You wrote "Don't get me wrong I enjoy her show." Then you say it's a crappy show.

You believe she engages in backhanded attacks, and then, unknowingly or not, engage in backhandedness of your own.

And again I ask, what are the "right reasons" for agreeing with someone as you mentioned in post #11?

And this statement, "Instead of beating up people on her side she should concentrate on the people screwing up the country." leads me to wonder how often you listen in. 90% of the time She thrashes the living hell out of the screw-ups and criminals, the liars and the hypocrites, and she does it with the facts and in no uncertain terms.

She is brash, she is opinionated, I've occasionally heard her lose patience with callers who are unclear and dithering, I've winced a few times while listening to some calls.

However, I disagree that any of that, or that any blips of personal self-indulgence that she may engage in are making the show "crappy." Nor do I see any evidence that it is interfering with her unyielding steam-rolling of the Bush Administration and the wrong they do.

Your communication here overall reads more like a negative meme planted with contradictory qualifiers that are not supported by what you have written. I'm sure that's not what you intended, but if you had said from the start, "I enjoy Randi Rhodes' show, I just wish she would drop the occasional cracks about how she has been under-appreciated by AAR, and use that time to thrash the pukes", I would have gotten your point, even if you would have had a rather weak topic for a thread. And I would have been convinced. Such are the ways of communication.

Did you yourself once call in and have a bad experience?

Taking you at your word that you actually enjoy the show, I can only add what Teaser posted in another AAR thread; "The Perfect is the Enemy of the Good." :-)

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illini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:36 PM
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17. I think I hit a nerve.
Your really obsessed with attacking people who disagree with you even if they are on the same team. Randi has a bit of a character flaw. Its called "self absorption" and it bleeds through. Can I sight specific instances of this no. Because, I don't tape her show and obsess about small things that I don't like about her show. I just had heard for 2 days at least about how she was the only person worth listening to at the media bias conference.
BTW You have no idea what I enjoy or don't enjoy. I can enjoy something like fishing and not like the mosquitoes that come with it. Randi's show is the same way. I loved her raking Rummy over the coals. Maybe tomorrow will be good also. Then she will have one of her "I am the only person that matters" moments that are annoying. I will forward past the silliness or mute her until the silliness ends and listen on. Thanks for your input. :)



Reading your post has been fun.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:27 PM
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18. I could only go on what you wrote
in regards to what you enjoy and as to what side you are on, and I'm sorry if you felt personally attacked by my questions and observations.

You've probably seen posts where someone will announce that they're a liberal and then continue on to prove that they are anything but.

they usually remain for only a few posts, but there have been individuals who have remained here for a long time before they exit.

So I'm happy to see that you will be taking the good despite its imperfections, and as we're on the same team we can push for re-instating the Fairness Doctrine even if it means chiding other members of the media for their lazy attitude about it and its importance.

We can even pat ourselves on the back for an eventual job well done, as we often do here at DU.

Rest assured the other team will be doing whatever it can (and then some) to tear down the one oasis and powerful outlet we have in AAR, and I do get jumpy and perhaps a bit ferocious about that. I'm sorry if a claw grazed your cheek.

I'm glad you've found this interchange fun (I saw no rolling eye smilie next to it.) I'm glad we could both meet one another and agree that despite what flaws we may find in AAR, it is important that it exists in America today.

Its present importance may well prove to be even greater from the vantage point of history, given that our own government appears hell-bent on destroying our freedom and silencing our voices. The fact that they would even attempt to do so is outrageous, dangerous, devastating, and ultimately heartbreaking.

Peace, Illini. :-)
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 03:29 PM
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19. Appreciate the differences
Randi and Al have completely different shows. I can enjoy both. In fact I prefer both over Ed Schultz. I won't even mention Alan Colmes, uggh.

I think we need both. Randi is more the attack dog, but man she attacks with facts. Sometimes she sounds like my inner voice.

Al is more of an NPR type host, but with humor. Don't forget Al is considering a Senate run. He can't be as wound as Randi.

Randi as a bit of an ego, but that's part of her appeal. We lucky to have both.

Think what was available two years ago. :)
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