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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:21 PM
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President Bush Is Less Conservative Than Clinton
Orange County Register

I am writing this column to one particular sort of reader. I want as many people as possible to read my column, of course, but this week's essay is geared toward those who insist that President George W. Bush - a man I supported and voted for - is advancing the cause of freedom.

Don't be influenced in your thinking about the president by the odd gyrations of America's leftists, who are consumed by Bush-spite. They despise him and embrace kooky ideas about him. It's almost enough to make one rally to the president's defense, but we shouldn't.

The enemy of our enemies is not necessarily our friend. Especially when the president, even though I believe him to be a decent man, is busy expanding government power at a pace that would have been unthinkable even under Bill Clinton's horrible administration.-snip-

Writes the Cato Institute's Doug Bandow in a cover story in the American Conservative magazine: "Despite occasional exceptions, the Bush administration, backed by the Republican-controlled Congress, has been promoting larger government at almost every turn. Its spending policies have been irresponsible, and its trade strategies have been destructive. The president has been quite willing to sell out the national interest for perceived political gain, whether the votes sought are from seniors or farmers. The terrorist attacks of 9/11 encouraged the administration to push into law civil-liberties restrictions that should worry anyone, whether they are wielded by a Bush or a Clinton administration."
It's hard to argue with this.
This president has not vetoed a single bill, which means he has signed into law every big-spending project that has come down the pike. Federal spending, even on non-military matters, has soared. His nation-building experiments are downright Wilsonian, a far cry from the "humbler" foreign policy he promised when he ran for office.-snip-

http://www.prisonplanet.com/120803lessconservative.html
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-03 07:30 PM
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1. here's another good paragragh
That shows even the conservatives are scratching their heads in their own little twisted way...


But look at what we've got, with the largest entitlement increase in decades pushed forward by the president (prescription drugs), and it's hard for me to know what to say. The right words are coming to mind: "I'm sorry." I'm sorry to my readers for suggesting such a choice. I'm sorry to my libertarian colleagues, who warned me there wouldn't be any noticeable difference between a Bush and Gore administration.
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ThePeat Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 08:59 PM
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2. I have to agree
despite my gut reaction to disregard anything said by a conservative collumnist, I agree. Irresponsible spending and strong central government are two things that I dislike about liberal governemtents. I recognize the economic necessity of a deficit, but Bush is hardly using his deficit to combat the recession.

I think Bush's spending tactics could be better understood under the context of fascism, rather then liberalism. His acceptance of every bill passed by congress not only strengthens the central government, but also builds establishes a debt between the president and congress. A favor for a favor if you will.
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ulTRAX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 10:49 PM
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3. GOP gave up fiscal conservatism because....
Edited on Thu Dec-11-03 10:53 PM by ulTRAX
Apparently our good fiend (sic) from the Cato Institute hasn't
been told that since Reagan the GOP has been giving up any
semblance of fiscal responsibility and has used fiscal
irresponsibility as a political weapon. Why? To create
budgetary trainwrecks to force the dismantling of our social
safety net.  See "Rolling Back the 20th Century" 
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030512&s=greider

Here's a great study by Harvard's Jeffrey Frankel on how the
GOP and the Democrats have traded places:
http://ksghome.harvard.edu/~.jfrankel.academic.ksg/Republicans%20and%20Democrats%20Have%20Switched.PDF

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PeeWeeTheMadman Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:40 AM
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4. Cato nuts
The problem is that spendig big isn`t left wing in itself. Spending is left wing if the money goes to healthcare, welfare and education. Spending on police, defense and other such meassures certainly aren`t left wing.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 04:11 PM
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5. Bu$h is not a ..
Edited on Fri Dec-12-03 04:12 PM by number6
Conservative or Republican or Christian...
he's a big government, police state, corporate cabalist
skull n bones cultist who is destroying our economy
bill of rights, n constitution.....
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 06:46 PM
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7. Would fascist be the word you're looking for?
Because they certainly advocate big government, especially the kind controlled by corporations.
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php1949 Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:14 PM
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6. A must read: Pat Buchanan goes all the way...
I started reading Pat's articles because I agree with his views about free trade and globalization. Of all his well written articles, in my opinion, this is his best to date:

Wall Street Journal vs. America

by Pat Buchanan
published in The American Conservative:

http://www.amconmag.com/11_3_03/buchanan.html

PS, sorry Pat for posting your article in our liberal forum ;-)
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JasonDeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 05:53 PM
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9. Pat Buchannan is a enemy of the Democratic party.
He blames Democrats every chance he gets for the invasion of Iraq! I wouldn't give him or his articles a second of my time. I'm so glad he's off the air too. I can't stand his sister either. Everytime I see her, her hair reminds me of that spoof "Spaceballs" Darth Vader character and his oversized helmet.
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JasonDeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 05:46 PM
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8. I've been wondering lately why Democrats get so upset
and accuse Democrats of being republican lite, mainly because the Democratic party is so inclusive (isn't it?) it can embrace conservative ideas without losing its character.

On the otherhand for the last few years the republican party has embraced so many issues that normally belong to the Democratic party and you don't hear anyone calling republicans "Democratic lite." Dean or Clark could have a field day against the republican congress and senate and especially bushie regarding this issue. Why vote Democratic lite (bushie) when you can get the real thing? Dean or Clark?
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 08:24 AM
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10. No Way
This guy is as conservative as Atilla the Hun, or Genghis Kahn.

He's fronting for some very powerful vested interests who are out to deconstuct the social safety nets intended for average Americans.

Bush is a very dangerous Con Artist, not a Conservative.
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