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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 10:39 AM
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Could somebody explain or comment
Are the new jobs being reported "net" jobs, i.e. jobs gained - jobs lost over the reporting period? If your job is "outsourced" and you are rehired by the new company, would your rehire appear in the stats for new jobs? I look around me and I am not seeing massive hiring.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 11:16 AM
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1. Yepper
Well, you were unemployed. Boo, hisss. Very clumsy of you. Then you got hired again. Well, your news job is listed as a NEWLY CREATED job, while the job that was sent off to India or Korea or anywhere else isn't considered at all. It's just more flimflam with numbers we out here in workdaday world know are much, much worse than the gang of thieves in the White House are admitting to.

That a job got sent overseas was not listed. That you were fortunate enough to get another job will be trumpeted to the sky. You are proof that those tax cuts to the rich worked, and they were able to extend their charity to deign to employ you.

The right wing thinks all jobs are good works of charity, you see, to keep the rabble occupied. They have no clue that without demand for goods and services, nobody will be hired to produce them. The money pump goes from the bottom to the top, not the other way around.

It's easier to lie with statistics to pretend it's the other way around.
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rapier Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 12:44 PM
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Edited on Sat Nov-08-03 12:45 PM by rapier
The common jobs numbers are net, gains over losses.

The new bullish numbers announced this week are modest gains so little wonder you don't see it demand for workers.

I forgot how to post images here or I would show a chart of jobs vs population, as a percent.

Currently the employed percentage is around 62%, down from 2000's almost 65%.

Most government numbers and the spin meisters who tout them go out of their way to obsure the fact that as the population grows so does the need to create new jobs. We need 125K new jobs a month just to stay even. We have at least 2 million less jobs now than on 1/01.

2million + 4.25 million (125K new jobs needed per month x 34 months)
= 6.25 million jobs short of the rate of workers in the population that existed 3 years ago.
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