The Dow is up 2.16% on the day. For real or Dead Cat Bounce?

It has recovered to where it was before the first dive Monday morning. Has it turned it around, or just for now?

It is still down 10% for January.

http://finance.google.com/finance?cid=983582&client=news

Nothing happening to be happy about.

This economy is unsound and unsustainable.

The general trend will be down until we get rid of the GOP and their incredibly bad management.

the insurers of all that hopeless subprime CDO shit:

http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aS4MS1THQ.Zk&refer=home

In fact, you can almost always make a few bucks off of a Stock Market Crash. Buy a bunch of stock x right after it crashes, then sell it within a few hours or days.

I like the dead cat analogy

The PPT doesn't want the market closing down six days in a row. They are trying to jump-start some upward momentum.

I'm betting they fail and that futures go much lower after close.
Dead cat bounce.

Got a chuckle out of that.

... (Dow industrials) was down 300 points,then slowly made its way up to -100, then in the last hour took off.

I've seen this last hour stuff many times, it looks awfully fishy to me.

This wasn't unexpected at all. I think the market is going to be volatile for a week or so. It may climb some, but it will be lower in the fall than it is now.

Haha. That is just a guess. If any of us "knew" we could make a ton of money.

But I call my prediction a 'forecast'. Exactly the same thing as 'guess' but it sounds better. :P

Everything is down. This market won't make a recovery till we make some fundamental changes in our economy.

Don't hold your breath.

The market will rally to sucker more money in...

... can filter into the real economy to effect anything real in such a short span of time. The stock market is running on pure emotion right now. Day to day fluctuations are driven by speculators, not investors. Give speculators a happy pill in the morning and they buy like crazy. Give them a bitter pill and they sell like crazy. Right now the stock market has lost its connection with reality, and is just running wild, which means lots of crazy volatility. Expect many ups and downs in the days and weeks ahead. But eventually, when reality catches up, its going to come crashing down by 30% to 50%.

on edit: Disclaimer: I am not a stock market expert, although I did play one in a high school play 45 years ago.

Investment is putting money towards infrastructure and the future. Healthy investments would be made in the United States. That is not the stock market.

The stock market has little to do with investment, especially during the more volatile periods. The market, and media, are manic depressive, swinging from fear and dismay to happy days are here again.

This is prime time for speculators who can make (and lose) a lot of money quickly.

The hourly market reports have nothing to do with the fact that the United States has divested itself of much of its manufacturing capacity, and is deep in debt at all levels from the household through federal government and thus is not in control of its finances.

The country is loath to invest in long-term infrastructure that would be beneficial to society such as mass transit, sustainable development, clean energy and the like.

The economy is based upon massive defense spending, borrowing, low-wage services and consumer purchases. It is the latter that especially must be sustained at all costs. This spending has little long-term benefit but makes everybody feel better.

There is a wish and magical belief that growth can continue forever. Inflation is but a minor concern despite ever increasing costs across the board. Debt is dismissed as ok as it is judged to be an "acceptable" percentage of GDP.

It is really quite amazing that the charade has become almost self-perpetuating. Reality will catch up at some point. It might be tomorrow or decades in the future. It will be "interesting" to watch this play out.

...because it creates motion, and motion creates fees and commissions, taking money out of the pockets of investors and putting it in the pockets of the Fat Cats.

the dead cat bounce and a pump and dump. It is going up in anticipation of the FED announcement as to weither they will have a rate cut.

And I agree with the suggestion that it will be 10K by the end of the year. Check the Stock Watch Thread for our "Turn Back The Hands Of Time" pool . We are guessing the day that the stocks drop down to what they were when Bush took office. I'll put it up this week. March, Sept, and Oct seem to be the fav months.

Unless you are ultra rich, you can kiss any retirement goodbye.

being selling doom and gllom for the last god knows how many months or years. This cat is bouncing a damn lot of times for a dead'un.

Occam tells me this is simply volatility, and that 200pt loss days are no more hard evidence of underlying trends than 200pt gain days.

My guess is the DJIA will simply bob around the high elevens to mid twelves until election time. Assuming the Dem wins, we should pick up a bit over the next year but I'd be surprised if we see over 14 or under 10 in the next 2 years at least.

Things could change of course, but the doom and gloomers always forget to factor in the millions of DCA investors via 401k funds and the trillions sitting in China waiting for investment opportunities.