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onbudsman Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:46 PM
Original message
Huge Guest worker increase in the works 2/17/08
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 05:48 PM by onbudsman
another knife in the back of American workers, at the worst possible time

so what do Hillary & Obama have to say about this?

does this issue fall under 'change', 'hope' or 'experience'?

From: Roy Beck, President, NumbersUSA
Date: Sunday 17FEB08 4 p.m. EST


Congress needs to hear from you this week -- Stop the increases in foreign workers & amnesty

DEAR FRIENDS,

Just when you think the Big Business Lobbyists can't be any more callous ...

At the same time as reports that we may be in an economic recession and that the job market is getting more and more difficult for Americans, the magazines, newspapers and airwaves are filled with op-eds, editorials and articles quoting the business leaders and lobbyists saying we must import more foreign workers!

Both the Democratic and Republican leadership of U.S. House and Senate are right now conspiring to bring legislation to the floor to greatly expand the pool of foreign labor in this country -- even as they talk about the need for taxpayers to provide more unemployment compensation for all the Americans who are losing their jobs.

This kind of insanity is nothing new.

And it will never slow down unless we as a Lobby of the People mobilize in massive fashion to put an end to it.

Please go to your NumbersUSA Action Buffet corkboard and make sure you have taken all the actions we have provided you to stand up against this latest effort of the Big Business Lobby to depress wages and foist major new subsidies upon the taxpayers.

I have been working full-time on these immigration issues since 1991. The Big Business Lobby and its well-compensated friends in Congress always use every upturn in the economy to cry for more foreign labor because of perceived shortages. But they never change their tune when the economy turns down. In every period of rising unemployment, the Big Business Lobby continues to cry about terrible worker shortages and always brings in hundreds of thousands of foreign workers during recessions.

Your NumbersUSA Capitol Hill Team has talked to a number of people who have been in high level Hill meetings where leaders of both Parties have expressed a desire during this time of economic turmoil to sneak through giant increases of H-1B visas for foreign tech workers, H-2B visas for foreign laborers, greencards for permanent foreign nurses and a five-year visa for 12-20 million illegal foreign workers and their dependents.

Friends, I know that all of this may seem too crazy to be true. But please believe me that that the worse our country's economic situation, the more your congressional leaders see a chance to give their corporate sponsors the huge foreign labor increases that the People's Lobby has been blocking the last several years.

Send your faxes immediately. Remember that Monday is a federal holiday. Wait to make your phone calls until Tuesday.

Congressional leaders hope you will be so busy worrying about your own jobs that you won't notice them giving away millions more through immigration increases.

THANKS,

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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:49 PM
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1. And, believe me...the congress WIL do this. When there is jobs they are welcome, but they are here
to displace Americans.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:53 PM
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2. And Hillary supports this
I was debating what to do after Edwards pulled out.

Finding out that she thought we should get more H1-B workers was the last straw for me.

No way will I support her.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:09 PM
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5. She also claims she'll help America's middle class.
There's only one way to do that, but will the cost of living in America make the wages being offered match? (If wages being doled out to India and China allow them to pull their people out of poverty, then surely it can be done here too. :shrug: )
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onbudsman Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:13 PM
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7. this says it all
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 07:20 PM by onbudsman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOW0cUaGWZU

sitting alone, in darkness

(Obama & McCain favor increasing it too)
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:03 PM
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3. This whole "worker shortage" has always been a scam
there are more than 80 million workers in America- employ those people first!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:50 PM
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4. Agreed; other countries support their own first.
:shrug:
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onbudsman Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:11 PM
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6. India, for instance
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 07:12 PM by onbudsman
India tightly controls their guest worker numbers, extremely low

'that wouldnt be fair to our citizens!, they've told to Americans who wanted to move to India (where their job went)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:18 PM
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8. I once read somewhere that Canada puts its own over Americans too...
Now if we are really globalized, how come every country still plays these PROTECTIONIST games?

That asswipe form the UK can whine "the US is being protectionist" - but these other countries are doing the same thing too.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:41 PM
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10. Absolutely! Along With The Implication That We Are Too
stupid or lazy to do the jobs. Pure BS.
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onbudsman Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:26 PM
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9. I will post any updates I get
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 07:27 PM by onbudsman
and any Democrats that are part of this (and I'm *guessing* pelosi, lofgren and the 'New Democrats' in the article below are in on it), need to get phone calls from REAL Democrats asking 'What the hell do you think you're doing?!?!'

the article below is an *older* article, my post that started this thread is from NumbersUSA talking about a NEW threat, that just came out today. I only list the older article to give a guess on who the suspects might be



House Democrats Pushing To Revisit H-1B Visa, Green Card Reform This Year
Marianne Kolbasuk McGee
InformationWeek

10/23/2007

Pressure is mounting on Congress -- now from within -- to pass H-1B visa and green card reform this year.
In a letter sent yesterday to U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi and several other House committee leaders, a group of 16 Democrats in Congress requested that "the House take action this year to resolve the immediate talent crisis that is facing U.S. employers."

The letter was signed by 16 U.S. representatives who are part of the New Democrat Coalition, a 59-member group of Democratic members of Congress who describe themselves as "moderate, pro-growth," and interested in "modernizing" the Democratic Party and the country.

The group says Congress "must act to alleviate the talent crisis before we adjourn this year."

Among the reforms being urged are aligning the supply of H-1B visas and employment-based green cards "with the needs of U.S. employers" and modernizing student visa programs. H-1B is the most common visa used by U.S. employers to temporarily hire foreign-born technology workers.

Currently, the annual cap on H-1B visas sits at 85,000, including 20,000 exemptions that are earmarked for foreign students who receive degrees from U.S. schools.

However, over the last few years, the supply of visas has been running out quickly while demand by employers increases. This year, the U.S. government received in two days nearly twice as many applications for H-1B visas than can be granted for fiscal 2008, which started Oct. 1.

The hope by employers for an increase in the number of H-1B visas that can be issued this fiscal year was crushed in the spring when Congress' comprehensive immigration reform bill died. However, in recent months, pressure has been growing on Congress to revisit tech-industry-related immigration issues as standalone legislation.

Besides the correspondence sent to House leaders by the New Democrat Coalition, in recent weeks various tech lobbying groups, including Compete America, IEEE-USA, and the Semiconductor Industry Association, have also been pressuring House and Senate leaders to readdress various visa and green card reforms.

New Democrat Coalition members signing the letter are Ellen Tauscher (Calif.), Adam Smith (Wash.), Joseph Crowley (N.Y.), Artur Davis (Ala.), Ron Kind (Wis.), Rick Larsen (Wash.), Dennis Moore (Kan.), Adam Schiff (Calif.), Jim Moran (Va.), Gregory Meeks (N.Y.), Susan Davis (Calif.), Lois Capps (Calif.), Gabrielle Giffords (Ariz.), Christopher Carney (Pa.), Michael Arcuri (N.Y.), and David Wu (Ore.).

However, despite the letter to Speaker Pelosi and other House leaders, new debate about raising the cap on H-1B visas or green card reforms isn't likely to be penciled in any time soon in the House, says a government source, unless the Senate makes the move first to revisit those issues.

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onbudsman Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:44 PM
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12. here's another

please call your reps, or you can use NumbersUSA's free fax service to quickly and easily send a fax to your senators and congress rep - you can choose several alternate texts they have written, you can customize it or write your own.

numbersusa is also against illegal immigration. i dont expect everyone here to agree with that, but the guest worker issue is wage suppression, plain and simple. everything the middle/working class experiences in earnings and workplace quality pain, derives from eroded bargaining power with their employer, plain and simple. you cannot ignore this issue if you support American workers. And since most Americans are workers, I dont see you anyone but the absolute top wealth can support their country without supporting workers

Dear Faxer:

Tell your Congressmen that America doesn't need more foreign workers!

This new fax has been posted in your Action Buffet based on your answers to the Interest Survey.

You can find this fax by proceeding to
http://www.numbersusa.com/faxes?ID=9576


Both the Democratic and Republican leadership of U.S. House and Senate are right now conspiring to bring legislation to the floor to greatly expand the pool of foreign labor in this country -- even as they talk about the need for taxpayers to provide more unemployment compensation for all the Americans who are losing their jobs.



CEOs and lobbying interests for big business are clamoring for more foreign workers, and it seems that Congress is listening. THIS MUST BE STOPPED!



Send a fax to your Congressmen and make sure they know that America has plenty of unemployed workers to fill any open jobs.




Do you want more or less information?
As a NumbersUSA subscriber, you will receive occasional emails about immigration-related opportunities. If you want to increase or reduce the frequency of these emails, click here and choose from Total Activism, Moderate Activism, or Limited Activism at the bottom of your registration form: http://www.numbersusa.com/user

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onbudsman Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:15 AM
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11. i encourage all 'underground democrats' to consider looking into the guest workers issue
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 11:15 AM by onbudsman
this issue is absolutly devestating

can there be any greater evidence, than their trying to raise it at a time like this?

they've really taken the mask off, of what this is really about. demolishing the middle class

ruining the jobs they cant send overseas

what a lot of people dont understand, was that the tech visa/H-1b thing was never about tech or skills, it was about LABOR

crushing labor who had gone the extra mile and did everything that was asked, and more

crushing labor that was already working massive UNPAID overtime (nearly all tech workers were salaried)

this labor model can spread to nearly all of white collar, you know, the jobs you were supposed to train for when they sent your manufacturing job overseas

and worst of all, the Democratic party is in cahoots with the Republicans and MultiNational corporations (formerly known as 'Corporate America')

stand up, or be crushed

NumbersUSA.com is a good website to monitor this, it's how I knew of this latest alert - they focus a lot on illegals, but I'm a member because of the H-1b issue

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onbudsman Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:03 PM
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13. Explanation of Democrat support for Guest Workers, from Orwell
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 03:11 PM by onbudsman
from 'Animal Farm'

The mystery of where the milk went to was soon cleared up. It was mixed every day into the pigs' mash. The early apples were now ripening, and the grass of the orchard was littered with windfalls. The animals had assumed as a matter of course that these would be shared out equally; one day, however, the order went forth that all the windfalls were to be collected and brought to the harness-room for the use of the pigs. At this some of the other animals murmured, but it was no use. All the pigs were in full agreement on this point, even Snowball and Napoleon. Squealer was sent to make the necessary explanations to the others.

"Comrades!" he cried. "You do not imagine, I hope, that we pigs are doing this in a spirit of selfishness and privilege? Many of us actually dislike milk and apples. I dislike them myself. Our sole object in taking these things is to preserve our health. Milk and apples (this has been proved by Science, comrades) contain substances absolutely necessary to the well-being of a pig. We pigs are brainworkers. The whole management and organisation of this farm depend on us. Day and night we are watching over your welfare. It is for your sake that we drink that milk and eat those apples. Do you know what would happen if we pigs failed in our duty? Jones would come back! Yes, Jones would come back! Surely, comrades," cried Squealer almost pleadingly, skipping from side to side and whisking his tail, "surely there is no one among you who wants to see Jones come back?"

Now if there was one thing that the animals were completely certain of, it was that they did not want Jones back. When it was put to them in this light, they had no more to say. The importance of keeping the pigs in good health was all too obvious. So it was agreed without further argument that the milk and the windfall apples (and also the main crop of apples when they ripened) should be reserved for the pigs alone.

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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:36 PM
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14.  Kick...
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namsdubmo Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 12:06 PM
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15. Indian Outsourcer WIPRO feels hiring Citizens in USA costs jobs for Indians
Recently Wipro Chairman Azim Premji had said: "If we hire people locally, it will displace people we send from here on H1B visas. So net-net, it will not mean an extra cost to us." If this happens, there will be fewer plum jobs for the boys in India.

http://inhome.rediff.com/money/2008/feb/18cut.htm
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namsdubmo Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:33 PM
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16. Clinton, Obama & McCain on H-1b visas


Hillary Clinton
"I also want to reaffirm my commitment to the H-1B visa program and to increase the current cap. Foreign skilled workers contribute greatly to our technological development. That is well understood in Silicon Valley."

John McCain
"I will continue to support H-1B visas, but, I’m telling you, the American peoples priority is, either rightly or wrongly, and we live in a democracy, is that we secure the borders first."

Barack Obama
"We can do better than that and go a long way toward meeting industry’s need for skilled workers with Americans. Until we have achieved that, I will support a temporary increase in the H-1B visa program as a stopgap measure until we can reform our immigration system comprehensively."

http://weblog.infoworld.com/realitycheck/archives/2008/02/the_three_presi.html

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namsdubmo Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:09 PM
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19. Hillary on H-1b visas and outsourcing


But in Buffalo, the fruits of the Tata deal have been hard to find. The company, which called the arrangement Clinton's "brainchild," says "about 10" employees work here. Tata says most of the new employees were hired from around Buffalo. It declines to say whether any of the new jobs are held by foreigners, who make up 90% of Tata's 10,000-employee workforce in the United States"

The quote from John Miano at the Programmer's Guild reminds me very much of the criticisms faced by Harris Miller in last year's Virginia Dem. primary

"It's just two-faced," said John Miano, founder of the Programmers Guild, one of several high-tech worker organizations that have sprung up as outsourcing has expanded. "We see her undermining U.S. workers and helping the offshoring business, and then she comes back to the U.S. and says, 'I'm concerned about your pain

http://modernpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/09/hillary-clinton-supports-destruction-of.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOW0cUaGWZU

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namsdubmo Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 02:02 PM
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21. She really said it: ' I am delighted to be the Senator from Punjab as well as from New York'
Edited on Sat Mar-01-08 02:14 PM by namsdubmo
my opinion - you should NEVER introduce yourself as the Senator from anywhere but the state that elected you

http://www.sikhcouncilusa.org/article.aspx?article=evtdinner



Hillary Clinton bowls over Indian MPs promises H1B increase

http://www.plex86.org/computer_2/Hillary-Clinton-bowls-over-Indian-MPs-promises-H1B-increase.html

(anyone notice she's a LOT more specific, when talking to people who aren't citizens?


Hillary says 'TA TA' to American jobs

http://bp2.blogger.com/_d9PxlbCXrxA/RuyouHU0hII/AAAAAAAAAAc/eB1_hnP758g/s200/Hillary-Tata+Smooch.jpg

Clinton (D-Punjab)
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namsdubmo Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 05:08 PM
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22. Hillary's idea of an incentive for tech workers - a reality TV show
Edited on Sat Mar-01-08 05:08 PM by namsdubmo
I'm not making this up. watch this brief Lou Dobbs clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhLBSLLIhUs

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namsdubmo Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:44 PM
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20. Why is it that Sen Durbin (D-IL) gets this but Obama doesn't?


Does Obama ever talk with his fellow Democrat senator from illinois? or was he out campaigning the day Durbin made the speech below. Read it entirly - its a stunningly complete indictment of the H-1b program:

Mr. President, in the coming weeks the Senate will again consider legislation to reform our broken immigration system.

I think we all understand the challenge is substantial. If we want to solve the problem, we need a comprehensive approach that is tough but fair. We should improve border security by increasing manpower and deploying new technology. We should enforce the law against employers who are hiring millions of undocumented workers. And we need a realistic, honest approach to the 12 million undocumented immigrants who live and work in our country illegally.

Most importantly, we must ensure that immigration reform legislation protects the American economy and American workers as well.

I am concerned about the H-1B visa program as it is currently
structured. I am afraid it is being abused by foreign companies to deprive qualified Americans of good jobs.

To address this problem, Senator Grassley and I have introduced S. 1035, the H-1B and L-1 Visa Fraud Abuse Prevention Act of 2007. This is a bipartisan bill. It would overhaul the H-1B and L-1 visa programs to protect American workers and crack down on unscrupulous employers.

The H-1B visa program was designed to allow employers to attract and hire high-skilled foreign workers with specialized knowledge. H-1B visas are probably best known for their use in technology to import computer engineers and programmers.

I can't tell you how many leaders in industry, including one this afternoon, come into my office and say: We absolutely need H-1B visas. We can't find enough people specialized education for our businesses. If you won't allow us to bring these workers in from overseas, we are going to be facing the possibility of taking our production facilities overseas where they live.

It is a compelling argument. I understand it on its face. But let me explain some of the problems with the current system and why Senator Grassley and I believe the system needs to be changed.

Supporters claim the goal of the H-1B program is to help the American economy by allowing U.S. companies to hire needed foreign workers. The reality is that H-1B visas are being used to facilitate the outsourcing of American jobs to other countries. It seems counterintuitive that a visa that allows people to come into the United States could lead to jobs being outsourced overseas, but when you hear my illustrations, you will understand the conclusion.

A recent expose in the International Herald Tribune disclosed that 8 of the top 10 H-1B visa applicants last year were outsourcing firms with major operations in one country--India. So in many cases it wasn't the American high tech company using the H-1B visa that was given this opportunity but, rather, a firm, more likely in India than any other country, that was given the authority to use H-1B visas to send workers into the United States. The Herald Tribune concluded:



As Indian outsourcing companies have become the leading consumers of the visa, they have used to it further their primary mission, which is to gain the expertise necessary to take on critical tasks performed by companies in the United States and perform them in India at a fraction of the cost.

According to this report, the Indian Government has been lobbying hard for the United States Government to increase the number of H-1B visas.

Kamal Nath, the Indian Commerce Minister, was very blunt when he said recently that the H-1B visa "has become the outsourcing visa." He concluded: "If at one point you had X amount of outsourcing and now you have a much higher quantum of outsourcing, you need that many more visas."

That is a very candid statement by this commerce minister in India. It should give us pause as we think about this program, what it was designed to do and what it is actually doing.

In other words, the Indian Government wants more H-1B visas so Indian companies can outsource more American jobs to India.

Let me be clear. India is a valuable American partner in commerce, diplomacy, and many other endeavors. Indians who have come to the United States have made immeasurable contributions to the benefit of our country in so many ways. I trust them as great friends. But some in India todayu nderstand that we have a weakness in our visa system and are using it for their own economic advantage.

It is not surprising the Indian Government is advocating on behalf of Indian companies. The American Government should advocate on behalf of American companies. I don't criticize the Indian Government for doing that. But we should expect the same from our Government for our workers. We need to stand up to make sure American workers don't lose their jobs to outsourcing because of H-1B visas.

H-1B supporters claim we need more H-1B visas to stop American jobs from being outsourced. That was the logic behind H-1B visas. It appears the opposite is true. Under the current system, more H-1B visas will mean more outsourcing.

Let me give an example. Indian outsourcing company Wipro was No. 2 on the list of top applicants for H-1B visas in the year 2006. Wipro has more than 4,000 employees in the United States, and approximately 2,500 of them are here on H-1B visas. It is pretty clear that when it comes to Wipro's American operation, the majority of the workers are here on H-1B visas. Every year Wipro brings 1,000 new temporary workers here from India, while they send another 1,000 U.S. trained workers back to India. This is essentially an outsourcing factory.

Here is what the Herald Tribune concluded:

"Rather than building a thriving community of experts and innovators in the United States, the
Indian firms seek to funnel work--and expertise--away from the country."

It is hard to believe, but it is perfectly legal to use the H-1B visa program for outsourcing. A foreign outsourcing company with a U.S. office can use H-1B visas to import workers from their home country, train the workers in the United States, and then outsource them back to their home country to populate businesses competing with the United States. They are not required to make any efforts to recruit American workers for these jobs. In fact, they can explicitly discriminate against American workers who apply for the same jobs by recruiting and hiring only workers from their home country.

Here is what the Labor Department says about the current law:

"H-1B workers may be hired even when a qualified U.S. worker wants the job, and a U.S. worker can be displaced from the job in favor of a foreign worker."

Is that what we had in mind with H-1B visas? That certainly wasn't the way it was explained to me. In fact, under current law, only employers who employ H-1B visa holders as a large percentage of their U.S. workforce are required to attempt to recruit American workers before bringing in foreign workers.

Senator Grassley and I have taken a look at this system. We both reject the notion that what is wrong with the H-1B program is that we need more visas. We have to look at the system that generates these visas and the way they are used. The legislation we have introduced would overhaul the H-1B program, protecting American workers first, and stopping H-1Bs from being exploited as outsourcing visas.

Here are the highlights. First and foremost, we would require all employers who want to hire an H-1B worker to attempt to hire an American worker first. Employers would also be prohibited from using H-1B visas to displace American workers. You can't fire an American and turn around and appeal to our Government for an H-1B visa to bring someone in from overseas to replace that worker.

This is an important principle. We have to make it clear that companies doing business in the United States have to give first priority to American workers.

Our bill would require that before an employer may hire an H-1B worker, the employer must first advertise the job opening to American workers for 30 days on the Department of Labor Web site.

Some companies that abuse the H-1B visa program are so brazen, they say "no Americans need apply" in their job advertisements. Hundreds of such ads have been posted on line. They say things such as "H-1B visa holders only" or "we require candidates for H-1B from India."

Is that what we have in mind, to create this perverse discrimination against American workers? That isn't the way it was explained to me. Our H-1B reform bill would prohibit this blatant discriminatory practice.

There is another serious problem with the H-1B visa program. Federal oversight is virtually nonexistent. Under current law there are many roadblocks to effective Government enforcement. For example, the Department of Labor does not have the authority to open an investigation of an employer suspected of abusing the H-1B program unless the Department receives a formal complaint, even if the employer's application is clearly fraudulent. Even if there is a complaint, the Labor Secretary--and this is something that is almost unique in our law--must personally authorize the opening of an investigation.

These restrictions in the law are aggravated by lax Government enforcement. According to the Department of Homeland Security's own Inspector General, Homeland Security has violated the law by approving thousands of H-1B applications in excess of the annual cap of 65,000. The Government Accountability Office found that the Labor Department approves over 99.5 percent of H-1B petitions it receives, including those that on their face clearly violate the law.

There is virtually no Government oversight of potential abuse in this system. The Labor Department's inspector general has concluded that the H-1B program is "highly susceptible to fraud." Remember, this program was designed to help the American economy, to help create jobs and prosperity in our country. Our Government is not even watching it closely to make sure that fraud isn't being perpetrated.

The bill Senator Grassley and I are proposing would give the Government more authority to conduct employer investigations and streamline the investigative process. Currently, the Labor Department is only authorized to review applications for "completeness and obvious inaccuracies." Our bill would give the Labor Department more authority to review employers' H-1B applications for "clear indicators of fraud or misrepresentation of material fact."

Our bill would authorize the Labor Department to conduct random audits of any company that uses the H-1B program and require the Department of Labor to conduct annual audits of companies that employ large numbers of H-1B workers. We would also increase the penalties for companies that violate H-1B visa rules and authorize the hiring of 200 additional Government investigators to oversee and enforce the H-1B program.

Last month, the government began accepting H-1B visa petitions for Fiscal Year 2008. In the first 24 hours, the government received 150,000 petitions for 65,000 slots, supposedly for the whole year. Based on last year's statistics, it is likely that the top petitioners for visas were companies from India. They understand the system. They understand how to make this profitable. But this is not the way it has been described to most Members of Congress. It certainly isn't consistent with our intent.

There is another program I wish to mention, the L-1 visa. The L-1 visa allows companies to transfer certain employees from foreign facilities to the United States for up to 7 years.

Experts have concluded that some employers use the L-1 program to evade restrictions on the H-1B program, because the L-1 program doesn't have an annual cap and doesn't include even minimal protections for American workers. As a result, efforts to reform the H-1B program are unlikely
to succeed if the L-1 program is not overhauled at the same time.

The bill Senator Grassley and I have prepared would reform the L-1 program.

We would establish for the first time whistleblower protections for those who call attention to employer abuses of L-1 programs, and for the first time we would authorize the Government to investigate and audit L-1 employers suspected of violating the law.

Before we are persuaded to increase the number of H-1B visas, we have to reform the program to protect American workers first and to stop H-1Bs from being used as outsourcing visas that send jobs and business away from America. That is what our bill would do, and that is what Senator Grassley and I will be pushing for as the Senate considers comprehensive immigration reform legislation.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/5/16/183114/236



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namsdubmo Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:36 PM
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17. Pelosi pushing for guest worker increase - from NumbersUSA
The reports from our NumbersUSA Capitol Hill Team today were even worse.

Incredible as it may seem amidst talk of recessions, job cuts and stagnant wages, we are finding reports and signs everywhere that House Speaker Pelosi is negotiating to give millions of U.S. jobs to foreign workers.

Please go to your own customized Action Buffet corkboard and make sure that you have sent all the faxes and made all the phone calls available to you to stop Speaker Pelosi's vile maneuverings.

And thanks to all of you have already sent nearly 100,000 faxes into Congress just this week, demanding that Congress save the dwindling number of U.S. jobs for Americans and legal immigrants already here.

It appears that the irresponsible, outlaw minority of the corporate world that insists on illegal foreign labor has a special "in" with the Democratic Speaker.

Pelosi's backroom deals appear to be motivated by fear that a group of freshmen Democrats may get most Republicans to help them force a vote on the enforcement-only SAVE Act (Secure America with Verification Enforcement). That bill -- with 145 bi-partisan signers in the House and Senate -- primarily would drive millions of illegal aliens out of their jobs.

But Pelosi is trying to ensure that if the enforcement-only bill comes to a vote it will include huge increases in H-2B and H-1B visas for foreign workers of all kinds, and that it will include millions of legal work permits for all the illegal aliens currently holding a job.

I want every American to be aware of Speaker Pelosi's callous attitude toward the 23 million, less-educated working-age Americans who do not currently have a job.

This group of Americans without any college education and without a job increased by 2 million between 2000 and 2005 at the same time Congress was importing 1.5 million foreign workers of the same education level, according to research by the Center for Immigration Studies.

Nobody in Congress has a worse grade (F-minus) than Nancy Pelosi when it comes to protecting American jobs, American wages and American working conditions from the downward pressures of massive immigration.

As the head Democrat, she stands in stark contrast to most of the newly elected Democrats who are pledged to protecting American workers and fighting illegal immigration. Unfortunately, Pelosi, the most radical Member of Congress on the immigration issue, is using her power as Speaker of the House to try to wreak even more damage on the most vulnerable of American workers and legal immigrant workers in this country. I urge all concerned Americans to contact their Members of Congress and express opposition to Rep. Pelosi's outrageous push for more foreign work visas.

Our Action Buffet Team will be providing you new opportunities for action during Wednesday.
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namsdubmo Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:03 PM
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18. with gas, food prices soaring, and wages stagnant
why in the heck would we increase the competition for food gas and wages at a time like this?
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namsdubmo Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 06:50 PM
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23. 'Our goal is clearly NOT to find a qualified and interested US worker'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR1Jke2NWTA&feature=rela...

taken out of context?

well, put it in context, watch the longer version (about 4 minutes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU&feature=rela...

the Democratic party clearly supports this practice

WHY?!?!?
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namsdubmo Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:46 PM
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24. 7 out of top Top 10 Companies Receiving H-1B's are Indian Outsourcers
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 03:52 PM by namsdubmo
have you heard that h-1bs are an alternative to outsourcing?

think again

Top Ten Companies Receiving H-1B's<22> Rank Company Headquarters Primary Employment Base H-1Bs received 2006 6 year projection
1 Infosys Bangalore, Karnataka, India India 4,908 29,448
2 Wipro Bangalore, Karnataka, India India 4,002 24,012
3 Microsoft Redmond, Washington USA 3,117 18,702
4 Tata Mumbai, Maharashtra, India India 3,046 18,276
5 Satyam Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India India 2,880 17,280
6 Cognizant Technology Solutions Teaneck, New Jersey<25> India 2,226 13,356
7 Patni Computer Systems Mumbai, Maharashtra, India India 1,391 8,346
8 IBM Armonk, New York USA 1,130 6,780
9 Oracle Corporation Redwood Shores, California USA 1,022 6,132
10 Larsen & Toubro Infotech Mumbai, Maharashtra, India India 947 5,682
TOP TEN TOTAL 148,014

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa

Recently Wipro Chairman Azim Premji had said: "If we hire people locally, it will displace people we send from here on H1B visas. So net-net, it will not mean an extra cost to us." If this happens, there will be fewer plum jobs for the boys in India.

http://inhome.rediff.com/money/2008/feb/18cut.htm

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