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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 11:01 AM
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Need help for Social Security Experts: Is this true?
Just got this e-mail this morning.

Social Security 2004.

This is very interesting and something that even those of us not collecting now should look
at seriously.

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years, and are now receiving a Social Security
check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we
paid to the federal government to put away, you may be interested in the following:

Immigrants moved into this country and at 65 got Social Security. The
Government gave that to them although they never paid a dime into it.

SOCIAL SECURITY: (This is worth the read. Its short and to the point.)

Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. Our
Senators and Congress men and women do not pay into Social Security and, of
course, they do not collect from it.

You see, Social Security benefits were not suitable for persons of their
rare elevation in society. They felt they should have a special plan for
themselves. So, many years ago they voted in their own benefit plan.

In more recent years, no congressperson has felt the need to change it.

After all, it is a great plan.

For all practical purposes their plan works like this,
When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die, except it may
increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.

For example:

Former Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives may expect to draw $7,800,000.00 ( That's Seven Million, Eight-Hundred, Thousand Dollars), with their wives drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of their lives.This is calculated on an average life span for each. Their cost for this excellent plan is $00.00. Nada! Zilch!

This little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. You and I pick up the tab for this plan.

The funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the General Funds, our tax dollars at work!

From our own Social Security Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) into every payday until we retire (which amount is matched by our employer) we can expect to get an average $1,000 per month after retirement. Or, in other words, we would have to collect our average of $1, 000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one (1) month to equal Senator Bill Bradley's benefits!

Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made.

That change would be to jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security plan with the rest of us ... then sit back and watch how fast they would fix it.

If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve.

PLEASE! PASS THIS ON!

2004 ELECTION ISSUE

This must be an issue in 04.
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This information, if true, goes a LONG way towards explaining the complacency of our "elected" representatives and our rights and benefits under social security.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 11:05 AM
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1. Most of this is a hoax
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 11:18 AM
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2. "Former" Senator Byrd?
also noted this latest version doesn't have the foaming at the mouth rant about Bill and Hillary's retirement amounts.

hehe, almost fooled me.
:eyes:

dp
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 11:18 AM
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3. A bunch of lies - not even close to truth about Social Security
I liked the line that some of us (very few - the folk getting a lot of other income) who get a check every month find we are taxed on 85% of the money recieved (but set up in the statement as the lie that it is the money we paid in - which it is not - and set up to imply an 85% tax rate - which it is not! :-) )

The true statement that Immigrants moved into this country and at 65 got Social Security is combined with the lie that they never paid a dime into it.

The fact that State government workers must have their State op-in to SS if they are to participate, and that there were recent changes to Fed Employee working for Senators and Congressman so as to get them into SS, is set up as a lie that someone felt "Social Security benefits were not suitable for persons of their
rare elevation in society."

The truth that Senators and Congress folks have a pension system is turned into the lie that that the pension system is, first, a replacement for SS, and, second, is a fantastic 100% of current salary for every Senator and Congressman and their spouses when they retire.

PLEASE! DO NOT PASS THIS SET OF BULL SHIT LIES ON!

:-)

:toast:
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