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steven johnson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:08 PM
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Most Americans expect higher taxes
All of the talk about federal dedicits has people skittish.



Despite President Obama's promise that only taxpayers earning more than $250,000 a year will pay higher taxes to support the healthcare initiative that he is proposing, the vast majority of Americans surveyed believe that they will pay higher income taxes by the final year of Obama's term in 2012.

The apparently pervasive fear of higher taxes with 68 percent of all Americans surveyed by the Gallup Poll saying they expect higher taxes by the end of Obama's term could help explain widespread uncertainty about the president's plans for overhauling the delivery of health care and insurance.

More than one-third of all surveyed say they expect their taxes to be "a lot higher'' despite the president's assertion that 95 percent of all Americans are getting tax relief under his economic stimulus program and health-care plans for the future.

"Most Americans remain skeptical that the administration can pay for healthcare reform and its other programs without raising their taxes,'' Gallup's Jeffrey Jones reports today.



Most Americans expect higher taxes
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:09 PM
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1. Where else do you think the revenue will come from?
Winning the Irish Sweepstakes?
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yodoobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:25 PM
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2. From those making over $250k
There will be no increase on taxes for those making less.

The President has been abundantly clear on this promise.

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no bad days Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:50 PM
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3. Death and Taxes
Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 07:05 PM by no bad days
I certainly understand the need for taxes but I am drowning in them. I am not going to put my income online but I am lower middle class and if you count social security and medicare (and I do) I pay 51% of my income in taxes add to that property tax, fees for everything government etc. I could use a life preserver. If our money was spent well I am progressive enough I might just shut up and take it, but the President recently authorized 75 billion (yes billion) in foreign aid to ha mas. That quite frankly makes my @$$ sore. My friend's mother recently passed away and she stood to inherit the family farm but because of what the farm was assessed at (due to developer scum) the inheritance tax was to high and beyond my friends reach, she had to sell the farm that had been in her family since 1897! And as a cherry on top the taxes were so high on what she got for the property that she lost OVER half of that in taxes. For our party to be successful in the future we must remedy this situation.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 07:35 PM
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4. That promise was broken with the tobacco tax n/t
The tobacco tax impacted people of lower income most.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:00 AM
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9. Your argument is comical at best..
People have the choice to buy smokes or not.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 05:50 PM
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11. Taxes were raised on tobacco
people also have the choice to buy gasoline. Amish get by without gasoline. The largest percentage of smokers are in the less educated lower income population, is it not? Did government give these people any help to get off tobacco? Maybe some people just like to smoke, the hell with the health consequences, we all die eventually anyway. I don't think it is the governments role to determine what life style choices people make. Next thing the government will become the diet police and start taxing the hell out of foods they don't approve of. The whole premise of taxing tobacco has absolutely nothing to do with making people quit since if they actually did they would have to find another source of revenue it's just taxing them because the majority doesn't smoke. I haven't smoked since 1981 but I think it is ridiculous today how people that smoke are treated like second class citizens. I work in steel mill and people aren't permitted to smoke in any building, the hot mill building is 1/2 mile long and full of dust, smoke and pollutants and you can't smoke a cigarette it's ridiculous.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 09:10 AM
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18. People have a choice
of whether to earn an income or not.

What's your point?
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 06:52 AM
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16. Stop reading RW Nazi talking points.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:50 PM
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5. LOL!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 02:28 AM
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13. It's taxes or inflation.
So far Bernanke is not having much success fighting deflation, so...
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 04:46 PM
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6. Uh-huh
Most Americans aren't stupid.

I'm aggravated by Obama's insistence on an impossible campaign promise - it seems to me that he is undercutting his own party.

Wouldn't matter if the House, Senate and Presidency were all controlled by Republicans - most Americans would have to pay higher taxes. It's time to get real.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 05:23 PM
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7. Can't get blood from a stone
You cannot successfully tax people with no jobs and no income.

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malletgirl02 Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 05:36 PM
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8. Americans
So no of those Americans were worried about paying higher taxes when the Bush administration was bushing for two wars?
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 07:01 AM
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10. paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans
Still true today as when it was spoken.
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stevebreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 12:03 PM
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12. most americans don't understand taxes in the first place
ask one of them what the the difference between their tax bracket is(the % of tax paid on their last dollar earned) and their effective tax rate (tax % on total income). See what they say?
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 06:53 AM
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17. Americans just need to pay the taxes. It's the right thing to do.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 09:11 AM
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19. But we're currently borrowing about half the entire budget
Can we double the taxes collected?

Is that even physically possible?
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rj5690 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 05:43 PM
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14. How else would the government raise money?
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 06:42 PM
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15. Do what Bush did..
keep borrowing from China and push economic policies that create massive inflation. Under Bush we had inflation in oil, commodities, housing, equities, education, health costs... everything except for wages.

Inflation, for all intents and purposes, is a tax, even though no one calls it that. It's a tax on savers and wage earners with the benefits going to borrowers and favored asset holders.

It's not likely that we can continue this course because Bush and co. pushed it fairly close to the limits.
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