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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:25 PM
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"Let's start the bidding. Do I hear ZERO?"
Thom Hartmann pointed out the fallacy of the idea "insurance companies being allowed to sell across state lines" ... that the insurance companies all would go to the state which would do anything to become the capitol of the insurance industry (as Hartmann pointed out, like the credit card companies do with South Dakota).

So I could see the bidding war for becoming the central hub of the insurance industry ...

"The bidding will start at ZERO ... zero regulations, zero money input by the industry, zero jobs established, and even zero presence aside from the post office box number as the 'corporate presence' ..."
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:33 PM
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1. The states wouldn't want companies that offer zero jobs or zero input
via corporate income and business tax. As far as regs go, I think it's pretty obvious that federal regulations will have to hold court.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:36 PM
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2. Right now STATES incorporate and STATES REGULATE or don't regulate. What authority do you use to
have the FED regulate intra state business?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:44 PM
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3. The Federal Trade Commission, OSHA, Consumer Protection Agency, and
Edited on Wed Feb-24-10 12:45 PM by wtmusic
the EPA all have broad powers over business wherever it's located.

Possibly under the auspices of the FTC, or create a new agency if necessary.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:15 PM
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10. Under What Authority?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:48 PM
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4. right now, they don't want zero jobs, or zero business taxes ...
but then, isn't that the goal of pitting the states/municipalities against each other?

We've seen so many examples of that ... a corporation, which has had their location in one area all their corporate life, says "Hey, I can't survive in this environment. Town X is offering me Q in tax breaks and infrastructure. What will you give me as incentive to stay?"

I'm just going to the logical conclusion of the insurance industry's bidding war ... start at the corporation giving up absolutely nothing ... and then what will the locations give them?

Aside from "workers" who would bear the brunt of paying the taxes which fund what the municipalities will give the corporations ...
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:53 PM
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5. I don't understand why a state would even bid for a corp
that doesn't bring anything to the table. :shrug:
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 01:04 PM
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6. pretty much be the end result of the process in place for some time, right?
I mean, the least that the corporations can get away with, by pitting one area against another ...

aren't communities doing that now, with all the tax abatements and such that they give to bring "businesses" and "jobs" to their area?

I remember in 2007, the "Republicans" were coming to Cleveland to see if Cleveland would "host" the Republican convention ... I said that there was no way in hell that Cleveland would have been selected, that the Rs were there just to have their d*cks sucked by the local (Democratic) politicians in hope to get the "honor of hosting it" ... as it ended up, the Rs left town and, just as I predicted, gave the convention site to somewhere else ... and had a good laugh at the "dignitaries" kissing their asses up and down ...
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 01:07 PM
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7. Well it's always kinda been that way
States offer perks, they get jobs and revenue. I don't see how much would be different with insurance (other kinds of insurance are sold across state lines now).
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 01:09 PM
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8. If they do this, then the law should also require that these companies that "move"
to another state physically do so.

You'll notice that the CEOs of credit card companies that "went" to South Dakota didn't move there.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:04 PM
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9. That's exactly what will happen. They will become too big to regulate.
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