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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:12 PM
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Biofuels Could Benefit World's Undernourished
Don't shoot the messenger, I don't know where I come down on this other than knowing monoculture sucks and cellulosic tech is the only thing that could make ethanol scale, and likewise the algae vector for biodiesel. There's been a lot of media handwringing over the impact of the biofuel sector on food prices lately, but that of course is against the backdrop of an agricultural sector that has been beaten down into a financial "subsistance diet" with farmers getting ripped off.

Given you don't know what's an astroturf campaign these days and what is sincere, I think this perspective is something worth considering:



The book finds that rising food prices are a hardship for some urban poor, who will need increased assistance from the World Food Programme and other relief efforts. However, it notes that the central cause of food scarcity is poverty, and seeking food security by driving agricultural prices ever lower will hurt more people than it helps.

In addition, growth in biofuels production may have unexpected economic benefits, according to the experts who contributed to the report. Of the 47 poorest countries, 38 are net importers of oil and 25 import all of their oil; for these nations, the tripling in oil prices has been an economic disaster. But nations that develop domestic biofuels industries will be able to purchase fuel from their own farmers rather than spending scarce foreign exchange on imported oil.

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World biofuels production rose 28 percent to 44 billion liters in 2006, according to the figures compiled since research on Biofuels for Transport was completed; fuel ethanol was up 22 percent and biodiesel rose 80 percent. Although biofuels comprise less than 1 percent of the global liquid fuel supply, the surge in production of biofuels in 2006 met 17 percent of the increase in supply of all liquid fuels worldwide last year.

This rapid growth is having unintended impacts. Large-scale biofuels production can threaten biodiversity, as seen recently with palm oil plantations in Indonesia that are encroaching on forests and edging out the endangered orangutan population, worrying European consumers who have begun importing palm oil from Southeast Asia. In Brazil, the Cerrado, a vast landscape of biologically rich forests, brush, and pasture just south of the Amazon, is coming under pressure as sugar cane cultivation expands.

http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=49689

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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:19 PM
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1. So they are saying...
rising food prices are bad for urban poor, but they help the agricultural poor, by allowing them to make more money selling their produce?
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:20 PM
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2. I guess that's the gist of it.


Here we have a lot of urban poor, other countries, well, that's a different scene.
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razzleberry Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 10:56 PM
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5. saving foreign exchange, helps the whole country .n/t.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:24 PM
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3. Related wikiscanner edit
Removed "Currently Brazil can produce fuel-grade ethanol for about $1.00 per gallon" from ethanol page.

Edit by FEMA IP.

Apologies if this was too off topic.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 06:35 PM
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4. No I find the wiki stuff fascinating...
I don't think it's improper in theory for government employees to contribute material to wikipedia, as an extension to the research that agencies are supposed to perform and publish. However, knowing this government all they are contributing is lies. So while I think some folks are going a bit overboard with some of the absolutism, I have no doubt that many a scandalous activity is being discovered.

It's just good to see an astroturfing issue get this much public attention. So more power to everyone working on it. Were I less busy I'd be writing correlator software to graph the web of intrigue, but I just do not have the time.

(Has anyone started cross indexing with the AOL leaked data from a year or so ago?)

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