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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:23 PM
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Lumber company wants to sell 29,000 acres redwoods in Northern California
EUREKA, Calif. -- A lumber company struggling to emerge from bankruptcy is seeking permission to sell land that is home to some of the state's most majestic redwood stands.

Pacific Lumber Co. has asked a U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Texas for permission to sell nearly 29,000 acres of Northern California redwood forest and to continue logging the rest.

A statement seeking approval of the 102-page proposal was made public Monday by Pacific Lumber President George O'Brien.

"This plan saves a 140-year-old company and creates a viable forest products enterprise that can provide excellent long-term jobs," O'Brien said.

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/10/03/news/state/16_04_2710_2_07.txt
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 03:04 PM
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1. Ol' Charlie Hurwitz is back at work, eh?
Doing exactly what he swore he would never do if the Courts would only allow him to buy that land so it could be forever "protected".

Bastard.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:56 PM
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2. ...ugh. they are already going down the shittubes -- they shouldn't be allowed
to take it any further.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 10:33 AM
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3. same f......... again!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 10:54 AM
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4. Save the Redwoods - Let the lumber comany GO...
...they can find ANOTHER business to get into.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:04 AM
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5. 140 year old company, my ass.
These scumbags killed it and now they are kicking the corpse around.
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motocicleta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:13 PM
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6. Let's see ...
140 year old company on one hand, 2000 year old trees on the other. Yeah, I stand on the side of the company. Right. Do I really need the sarcasm smiley? What a load.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:53 PM
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8. Pacific Lumber died in Maxxam's hostile takeover.
It's not a 140 year old company, it's the corpse of a company that's been dead for twenty years.

Corporate murder and killing old growth trees was their business plan from the start.
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motocicleta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:02 PM
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9. That too.
Hopefully California has enough sense, and I think they do, to not let this happen.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:52 PM
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7. They have already sold thousands. This is not new.
I know the company pretty well. And much of the forests they own. I've worked with their real estate man. And I know several people who are and who have been selling their lands. First of all, there are no thousand year old trees that they own. There might be some anonymous pocket of several. But those were cut long ago. All you see now are twenty foot diameter stumps.

I don't think people realize that the reason trees are cut is so they can build their houses. I am not defending Palco. I despise the act of big time logging. I have suffered greatly over the loss. I have spent large amounts of time in their forests. I've been kicked off by Fish and Game. And I've seen the disaster. Not many have, as it's usually far from view. We did it. I really ought not to post this. I know I'll get the same response as my other posts. We are the ones responsible. Ultimately. It was a family owned business. I know who the previous owner is. He's still alive. Hurwitz destroyed the company. But we asked for lumber. Two separate issues. And as population grows, we will be asking for more resources, whether they're wood or not.

Several years ago I approached Palco and asked if I could buy some land. They offered me 160 acres which I turned down. That same property just closed escrow a few weeks ago. And a couple from Colorado was thrilled to get so much land for such a good price. Even though they are going to be fairly low impact, now we're going to have a road, a house, more cars on the roads, and one less piece of forest. Do that over thousands of acres, and Humboldt is no longer Humboldt. I'm not sure which is worse. I hate the argument that trees grow back. But what about when there's development? That never goes away.

I don't know. I'm just watching.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 09:44 PM
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10. Which Third World Country will be the Buyer? or are we now Third World and the rest are First World
in this topsy/turvy time? :shrug: Highest bidder? lots of good wood there for McMansions all over Asia.
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losthills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:59 PM
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11. Wow...
Nothing to add.

Except a right on to the members of this group who know what is going on.

Gracias...
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