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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 05:30 PM
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More Napa Wineries Switching To Solar Power
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=local&id=5709820

More Napa Wineries Switching To Solar Power

State Funding Helps Push


KGO By Terry McSweeney

NAPA, Calif. Oct. 16, 2007 (KGO) - Have you heard the saying 'wine is sunshine in a glass?' In Napa Valley right now more and more wineries are taking that literally, by switching to solar power.

A number of forces are playing a role in the greening of the Napa Valley - certainly economic forces. The state is putting out $2 billion dollars for businesses to go solar, the federal government is offering tax breaks. But we found a winery where they say they're going green for the sake of the environment.

At the Staglin Winery in Rutherford in the Napa Valley the time to harvest is over. The time to make the wine is here. Staglin has something you don't see at most wineries - enough solar panels to produce almost enough energy to operate the winery.

For the most part solar energy operates the equipment, powers the light that lights the cellar, powers everything in the Staglin home and allows you to see the temperature of the fermenting grapes.

"In addition to organic farming we wanted to add solar power to the equation to reduce our carbon footprint and fewer fossil fuel emissions in generating electricity for the winery," said Brandon Staglin, Staglin Winery.

Sunlight Electric installed 1000 200 watt solar panels - which started producing energy this past July. Company President Rob Erlichman says wineries meet all the criteria for large solar projects. And says Erlichman solar power is a trend at Napa Valley wineries.

"Seven percent of the winereies in Napa have adopted solar power. Compare that to the adoption rate for businesses in the state of California in general, which is 2/10ths of one percent," said Rob Erlichman, Sunlight Electric President.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 05:51 PM
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1. Why are they bothering at all?? I bet their vehicles still use
DANGEROUS FOSSIL FUELS!!!1!11!!!11!!! (kestrel's best imitation of one nuclear proponent who will no doubt be showing up soon to denigrate this very responsible, positive measure)
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 06:02 PM
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2. Napa's winery vehicles are all powered by wine
and sometimes a little beer.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 06:08 PM
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3. Ah. As it should be.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 06:24 AM
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4. So are most of the drivers! (n/t)
:P
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 05:45 PM
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5. As we say in the valley...
It takes a lot of beer to make a good wine.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 09:22 PM
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6. And I guess your point would be that rich brats with solar cells make a difference.
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 09:23 PM by NNadir
In fact, I am here to say that this kind of consumerist crap is pretty much worthless.

There is NOT one consumer brat anti-nuke who has even a fucking remote clue about scale. NOT ONE.

I am happy to poke at the gut of fat consumer anti-nukes who couldn't care less about dangerous fossil fuels but have a big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, level "concern" for nuclear's "problems."

There is nothing, absolutely nothing, very little that points up the consumer conceits of the anti-nuke industry, than happy talk about 5 or 6 solar cells in a fucking yuppie winery.

Nothing.

Squirm all you like, the fact is that the anti-nuke industry, a highly paid (off) bunch, couldn't care less about dangerous fossil fuels.

There is not ONE anti-nuke who has bothered to find out how many joules are in a gallon of gasoline.

In fact, the answer to that question is 132 MJ/gallon:

http://bioenergy.ornl.gov/papers/misc/energy_conv.html

We know, in spite of all the anti-nuke ignorance about continuous vs peak energy how much the smallest and least significant of all of the climate change free forms of energy produces in this country. I keep producing it, but for all of their pay (offs) it would seem that anti-nukes don't get it:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/solar.renewables/page/trends/table1.html

The big, bad, awesome, tremendous, break their fucking arms patting themselves on their consumer brat backs solar industry produced in 2005 just about what it produced in 2001, 0.066 Quads which is about 0.07 exajoules.

Now I realize you can't get into the anti-nuke industry/religion if you can do math, but this works out to the equivalent (ignoring refining costs and shipping) to about 528 million gallons of gasoline.

Gee willilkers Momma! Whoopdedoo! Hallulooooooojah!

That's 12.6 million barrels of gasoline!

WE ARE SAVED!!!! PRAISE THE LORD AND HIS ORACLE AT SNOWMASS.

That's the entire United States. The whole fucking country. That would be the whole fucking country after 50 years of cheering how "Solar Will Save Us!!!!!"

There is NOT ONE anti-nuke who knows anything about, or gives a rat's ass about scale.

How much gasoline is 12.6 million barrels of gasoline?

According to the table, the US demand for petroleum products amounts to 42.9 exajoules, converting from Quads to exajoules.

Thus the big deal solar industry - which has proponents around here saying that it is alternative to fossil fuels and the largest, by far, source of climate change gas free energy, nuclear energy - produces 0.162% as much energy as the dangerous fossil fuel petroleum - never mind the other dangerous fossil fuels about which the anti-nuke industry/religion couldn't care less.

Put another way, the total production of solar energy in this country, after decades and decades and decades of "world's largest" installations and endless cheering like the OP here, the sock puppet stuff, amounts to about 14 hours of US consumption of oil.

Drive me to the winery Momma! I want to have me a drink to celebrate the big, big, big, big, big solar victory.

Tough shit. The fact is that the anti-nuke industry opposes the largest, by far, source of climate change gas free energy, demonstrating rather unambiguously that the anti-nuke industry couldn't care less about dangerous fossil fuels because it is full of self congratulation in a time of dire emergency when all life on earth is in extreme danger from dangerous fossil fuel waste.

Now let's compare the nuclear industry - opposed by some solar slugs - produces.

The nuclear industry produces more than 73 days worth of US oil consumption.

The nuclear industry produces more than 130 days worth of US consumption of coal, another fossil fuel about which the solar hype anti-nuke industry couldn't care less.

Squirm all you like. You should squirm. It's pretty clear what the consumer apologist "we're great guys because we love solar and hate nukes" industry is all about: Self delusion.

You see that number at the top of the chart?

You don't?

You couldn't care less?

Why am I not surprised?

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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:33 AM
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7. Geez, you really got the response from a certain party you asked for!
Though the diatribe on spoiled brats in addition to exajoules is a refreshing change (not)...
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 02:02 PM
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8. So the several pages of linked statistics and facts really reeled you in too?
(not)
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