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razzleberry (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 04:20 AM Original message |
Prius 30-miles-all-electric conversions for sale |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 04:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. I saw something similar on television..... |
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razzleberry (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. political independence from OPEC, is the issue |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Check out the |
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greenman3610 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. the "electric cars increase need for coal" meme |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Where is the off-peak electricity going *now*, if that is the case? |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Actually the poster sorta has a point........ |
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diane in sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Pacific Gas and Electric is pushing P-HEV cars because they have an electriciy excess |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Ofcourse more coal would be burnt.... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Ok, yes. And EV advocates contend that there is less smog pollution from EVs |
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greenman3610 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 06:38 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. wind power can displace coal |
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greenman3610 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 06:33 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. the point is that we will not shut down all coal plants simultaneously |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. It might be more cost-effective, but how does it not mean more coal is burned? |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Opps.... |
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greenman3610 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 06:44 AM Response to Reply #9 |
22. you're already burning the coal, like it or not |
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greenman3610 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 06:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. DOE has done the study |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I don't think coal is the ONLY source of electricity.... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Hydroelectric plants bank their extra energy in the off peak hours |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Now, now, now - no changing the subject here. Your complaint was |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. You brought up hydro |
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greenman3610 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 06:17 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. definition of spinning reserve |
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greenman3610 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 06:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
19. turbines spin, no power produced |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 08:04 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Takes alot more fuel to generate than to spin reserve |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 08:09 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Very good illustrative analogy |
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greenman3610 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 08:55 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. DOE Study: net reductions in greenhouse gases |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Yes. But it still means more coal is burned |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
16. A full battery charge would take around 2KW of solar |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
26. This is awesome. |
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losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
28. It's obvious that a transition to electric cars |
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