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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:09 PM
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Bayh, Lugar help block energy bill
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071207/BREAK/712070493/1196/LOCAL

December 7, 2007

Bayh, Lugar help block energy bill

By MAUREEN GROPPE Star Washington Bureau
December 7, 2007

WASHINGTON - Indiana's Democratic and Republican senators today helped block a vote on an energy bill aimed at curbing gasoline use and promoting renewable energy.

The Senate voted 53-42 to call up the bill, short of the supermajority needed to stop a filibuster.

Both Sen. Evan Bayh, a Democrat, and Sen. Richard Lugar, a Republican, voted against having a final vote on the bill. Both senators have regularly talked about the need to make the nation more energy independent and to promote renewable fuels.

The bill would have raised fuel economy standards for cars for the first in more than two decades, required billions of gallons of ethanol and other biofuels to be blended into gasoline, created tax incentives to promote renewable energy and energy efficiency, and required utilities to get at least 15 percent of their power from renewable sources by 2020.

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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 02:24 PM
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1. Fuck you Bayh - and the Lugar you rode in on...
dumbasses
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 03:24 PM
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2. Good.
That bill deserved to die because of that ethanol provision. I'm glad someone besides Roscoe Bartlett has some brains.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 03:32 PM
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4. They ain't killing it because of ethanol, believe you me.
probably because there's not enough ethanol involved.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 07:51 PM
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7. Ummm...Republicans killed this bill. Are you cheering for them?
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 08:40 PM
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8. If a bill has ethanol in it, I don't care who kills it so long as it dies.
The future of life on this planet is not a parochial American political issue.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 09:16 PM
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9. We tried that once
not such a good idear

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 03:32 PM
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3. They must have a more corn-friendly alternative bill in the works.
IA and IN

gimme a break. it's a cash cow for their home states, but simply not viable.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 03:35 PM
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5. so did Byrd and Landreau
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 03:36 PM
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6. because of the state's reliance on coal, Indiana enjoys power rates that are about 20 percent lower
The House passed the bill Thursday but the White House issued a veto threat, saying the bill "would impose higher costs on American taxpayers, electricity consumers and businesses."


The Indiana Chamber of Commerce agrees and the Indiana Energy Association estimates the renewable energy requirement would increase electricity costs in the state by at least 10 percent.


Largely because of the state's reliance on coal, Indiana enjoys power rates that are about 20 percent lower than the national average and the 11th-lowest among the states.
But the Citizens Action Coalition of Indiana said Indiana has enough wind energy potential that electric bills would not increase.
About half of states, not including Indiana, already have a renewable energy requirement.
In addition to the renewable energy mandate, the administration objects to the bill's rollback of subsidies for oil companies that help pay for tax incentives for biofuels, renewable electricity, energy efficiency and for other new tax breaks.
Lawmakers could strip out those provisions in order to pass the 40 percent increase on fuel economy standards for vehicles, which is widely supported.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:02 PM
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10. I believe that they also mine a lot of coal in southern Indiana,
just like in neighboring states Ohio, Kentucky and Illinois.

I would like to see a map of proposed wind energy sites for Indiana. My recollection of the USGA wind maps is that Indiana had less wind energy potential than states further west in the plains, and to the east and west in the mountains.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 11:24 AM
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11. Yes they do. n/t
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