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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:05 AM Original message |
Hybrid Escalade? You Gotta Be Kidding |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
1. Just IMO - yep - They're lipstick on a pig. (n/t) |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
2. That is were all the "big three" are putting their hybrids |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. Silly me. I thought the buyers were hybrids......... |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
4. Lipstick on a pig. Or a gas hog to be precise. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Nissan Armada, Honda Ridgeline, Toyota Land Cruiser |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I'm 55 years old. It's the first foreign car I've bought in my life. |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. When I heard Hannity and Limbaugh hawking GM products, I said |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Right wing scum buy LOTS of Toyota's and Honda's and Nissan's too |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Not to mention, their are many who also own a Prius. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 08:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
55. I am still driving a US made subcompact I purchased in 1986 |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Yep -- NOT buying a car so often saves a LOT of carbon |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
5. I guess here at DU vehicle choice is limited to Japanese cars |
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deadmessengers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I don't think political correctness is the issue here. |
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IADEMO2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Years ago Lee Iacocca said Chrysler and their Japanese partner |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. So it's ok to damage the environment twice as long?? |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #5 |
34. I hope GM releases the Volt. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 02:29 AM Response to Reply #34 |
45. Imagine if fleets of delivery vehicles became hybrids in a decade |
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nradisic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
8. more than 60% fuel improvement.... |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. You waste your breath here |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. 20 mpg and a huge towing capacity will make for a market success that Toyota won't have |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. You could get a 500% improvement in a Prius. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. People do have a right to own what ever car they want |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 03:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Sorry, but I don't own a Prius. |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 04:14 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I'm pretty sure it would get a little better than 12mpg |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. A little better is still not "substantially better" |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I know that, I just wanted to make that part clear about the EPA numbers |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Fuel economy dot gov |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Gave the Japanese a pass? |
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lectrobyte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. If I had more time, I'd figure out how much gas you'd need to save |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
25. Not the largest engine GM makes. |
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RedEarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
12. GM just doesn't get it |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
19. Oy. Don't they know you CAN'T make a silk purse out of a sow's ear??? |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
20. Frankly, all hybrid cars are lipstick on a pig. |
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lectrobyte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. you got it. |
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lectrobyte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
21. Let's see, 21 MPG instead of 14MPG for only $15,000 more... |
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losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 03:33 AM Response to Original message |
26. Hybrids are the best technology we have going... |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 04:36 AM Response to Original message |
29. The entire environmental movement has been turned to this |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:14 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. "instead of cultivating a generation of Gorean energy/enviro policy " |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. It's a small world -- to consumers. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. The public is only willing to compromise to the verge of being uncomfortable |
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salinen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. We're in the "last throes" |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Cyber Hugs |
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losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Rush Limbaugh couldn't have said it any better. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Faux environmentalism doesn't help anybody. |
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losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. We know what environmentalism is, thanks. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Are you calling me a neo-con? |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 02:12 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. You missed his points entirely |
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losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 02:48 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I didn't miss a thing. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Let me put my hair shirt on and flagellate myself for not meeting your standards |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Here's the lowdown |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. "Green" bullies are no different than "carbon" bullys |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Thanks for the words of support! |
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losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Green Bullies? |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. You got that right! |
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losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Let's see if I understand you correctly.... |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. It has to do with you preaching to everyone who doesn't agree with your "environmentalism" |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
32. Hybrids are GOOD |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 03:19 AM Response to Original message |
58. Two last items for the non-believers |
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lectrobyte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. That nickel mine thing is very tired, do some googling and see that |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. What's tired are the enviro-elitists who deny the total package of activism |
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lectrobyte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. God of green? |
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