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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 04:56 PM
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Good news: Global warming is self-correcting, and will fix itself.
In the millions upon millions of years of the history of our planet, climate has fluctuated between extremes we cannot even begin to imagine. Asteroids, comets and volcanoes have wiped out large ecosystems, and in a few cases, altered the ecology of the entire globe.

Words like "crisis" and "catastrophe" have very limited application, and only with respect to some particular frame of reference. For example, the asteroid impact of 65 million years ago was clearly a catastrophe from the point of view of the dinosaurs, but was far from catastrophic for the mammals that followed. What is a crisis for the polar bear now might be a boon to several other species in the near future.

In the long run, earth, and the life forms upon it, adjust and adapt to whatever ecological "crisis" or "catastrophe" comes along. Whatever else we may accomplish, the human race will never destroy planet earth. Any crisis or catastrophe that might come about as a result of global warming, will be considered a "crisis", or "catastrophe" primarily from the viewpoint of the human race. From the viewpoint of the planet itself, and the global ecosystem as a whole, the extinction of the human race would be barely noticeable, and certainly not catastrophic.

Since the human race is sowing the seeds of its own destruction, the most likely outcome is for conditions favoring the demise human civilization to become even more pronounced. The only way the globe can become more hospitable to humans is if humans stop poisoning the planet. We know the planet itself will not die, so the only possible outcome is for the human race either to die outright, or the be reduced in number and capabilities to the extent that the few remaining humans are no longer able to go on damaging the biosphere. The alternative which sees humans suddenly changing their ways and becoming enlightened stewards of the planet are a pleasing fantasy, but given the political and intellectual realities (i.e., that humans are short-sighted and too poorly educated to make wise decisions), this outcome is so unlikely that it can be safely ignored.

The global warming "crisis", then, is not really a crisis at all, except from the narrow point of view of the human race, and doesn’t really need to be fixed, since the global ecosystem is self-correcting already. The offending infectious organism that is causing this fever, mankind, will be expelled from the ecosystem, or at least global antibodies will fight back the infection far enough that it is no longer strong enough to damage the earth as a whole. Then the earth as a whole will find a new balance, one less hospitable to the parasite called man, and balance and harmony will once again reign in nature.
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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 04:58 PM
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1. Your reeducation session will be scheduled for next week.
Enjoy your stay until then.

Duke

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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 05:00 PM
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2. And I, for one,...
...will welcome our cockroach overlords.
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MikeE Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 05:53 PM
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6. and for any of you Fairly Odd Parents fans
I can just hear the cockroaches shouting in a spanish accent "World domination!"

If you have never seen the show or episode, it is the funniest thing. They even made a game based on the episode, Timmy's Roach Rampage
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 05:00 PM
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3. "the earth as a whole will find a new balance, one less hospitable to the parasite called man"
Interesting! But I suddenly feel like a flea....
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 05:01 PM
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4. lol... The Onion, I Get It!
Edited on Fri Jun-27-08 05:02 PM by fascisthunter
:rofl:

So happy for the planet, us, not so much!
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lutherj Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 05:05 PM
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5. I agree, since all the CO2 in the coal and oil and natural gas was
once in the atmosphere before being fixed in the fossil fuels in the earth. From a geological timescale point of view, it wasn't that long ago before they were sequestered. It's just a matter of whether we want to survive, and what quality of life we are leaving to our children.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 06:08 PM
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7. I'm not convinced about the "fixing itself" part.
Venus got tipped somehow, and look how things are there. Permanently.

I still don't think we have any business making things needlessly worse for the other living creatures on earth, even if we are convinced we are doomed. We have a DUTY to attempt to mitigate the damage we have caused, even as we die.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:20 PM
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8. unless it's the other species you care about, not the humans
Climate changes and mass extinctions happen? whaa..?? :P
This is the first one brought about by a species, one species who's also obliterating so many others. There's something so wrong about that that I can't just shelve it with the other events, humans are nothing but Evil with a capital E. Image of God my fat ass.

It does seem that everyone's concern about this is human-centered.. hmm, how pathetic.
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losthills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:46 PM
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9. Thanks for the good news!
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 01:48 AM
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10. "Oh, the Earth will be fine, but the people are fucked."
RIP, George Carlin.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 07:39 AM
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11. Sure, just like Venus "fixed itself"
Edited on Sat Jun-28-08 07:40 AM by Canuckistanian
The atmosphere of Venus was discovered in 1761 by Russian polymath Mikhail Lomonosov.It is much denser and hotter than that of Earth. The temperature and pressure at the surface are 740 K (467°C) and 93 bar, respectively. The Venusian atmosphere supports opaque clouds made of sulfuric acid, making optical observation of the surface impossible. Information about the topography of Venus has been obtained exclusively by radar imaging. The main atmospheric gases on Venus are carbon dioxide and nitrogen. Other chemical compounds are present only in trace amounts.

The atmosphere of Venus is in state of a vigorous circulation and super-rotation. The whole atmosphere circles the planet in just four Earth days, much faster than Venus' sideral day of 243 days. The winds supporting super-rotation blow as fast as 100 m/s. Near the poles are anticyclonic structures called polar vortexes. Each vortex is double-eyed and shows a characteristic S-shaped pattern of clouds.

~snip

It is currently thought that the atmosphere of Venus up to around 4 billion years ago was more like that of the Earth with liquid water on the surface. The runaway greenhouse effect may have been caused by the evaporation of the surface water and subsequent rise of the levels of other greenhouse gases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 11:25 AM
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12. As Franz Kafka said somewhere
There is hope, but not for us.
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