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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 05:34 AM
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New Cars Leave MPG Standard Behind - WSJ
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125123863033558403.html

Good discussion of shortcomings of MPG ratings for new generation of vehicles.

General Motors promises its forthcoming Volt hybrid electric car will push fuel-economy levels to new heights. It also could spark an overhaul of the miles-per-gallon standard, a number that doesn't tell consumers enough about the next generation of vehicles.

In recent weeks, GM has touted the Chevrolet Volt's expected 230 mpg fuel economy in city driving. The big number dwarfs the mileage of any car on dealer lots.

Yet high mileage claims for the Volt and other planned plug-in automobiles highlight a deep flaw with the mpg standard: As automobiles increasingly rely on multiple fuel sources, or on electricity alone, gauging their efficiency in terms of gasoline risks giving consumers inaccurate information about the financial and environmental costs of driving.
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* MPG Fits Awkwardly in Electric-Vehicle Landscape

One problem is that in hybrid vehicles, mileage variation could be extreme, depending on which fuel source is being used.

In addition, the Environmental Protection Agency hasn't finalized rules for how it will measure fuel economy on the Volt or other cars that can be plugged into an electrical outlet. Until then, ...


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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 05:53 AM
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1. Well we have miles per charge for pure electrics
and the pseudo MPG for hybrids seems ok to me.

But I agree we need to reconsider the MPG as we start going to hybrid vehicles more n more.

I woudl still like to see a proper 3 Cyl engine again like in my old geo which averaged 50+MPG "combined" which I see as a false number myself. I like the highway/city numbers as I feel they represent better the MPG of a vehicle.

oh well thats just me.

KnR
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 07:42 AM
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2. Probably need 4 numbers/figures for plug-ins
MPG running purely on Gasoline (e.g. with battery disconnected)
Miles per Kilowatthour (KW-HR) for pure electric power or list both electric and gas consumption if gas engine is required to supplement electric on course.

Since many will be uncomfortabe using just the numbers above we will need something like a 15 miles/day urban commute course to get one number for electric and gas consumption and a 80 mile/day commute course both assuming the batteries are freshly charged.

The early adopters probably are more technologically asvy anyway and won't need all of the extra "real life' simulation to figure out what to expect. But for mass adoption it's probably necessary to have something that will fairly accuratly predict exactly how much of each fuel source will be required daily/weekly/per mile, to power the car.
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