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Fledermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 05:47 AM
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Biogas could supply 18 per cent of total UK demand for gas
British homes could soon be heated by gas produced from cow manure and sewage slurry, under plans being considered by Centrica, the owner of British Gas.

The company, which has 16 million UK customers, is drawing up plans to build a plant that would use organic waste to produce biomethane that could be injected directly into the national gas network. National Grid has estimated that such biogas could supply 18 per cent of total UK demand for gas — or 18 billion cubic meters of the approximately 100 billion total consumed in Britain every year.

A spokesman for Centrica said that biogas was an “interesting technology” and that it was studying the option of constructing a plant in Britain that would process an array of materials, from abattoir and farm waste to municipal food waste.

John Baldwin, a biomethane consultant with CNG Services, which is advising Centrica, said that the industry remained “embryonic” in the UK but was well advanced in continental countries. However, he said that the economics of British biomethane production would be transformed in April 2011, when the Government begins a subsidy scheme called the Renewable Heat Incentive.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/natural_resources/article6876945.ece
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 07:08 AM
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1. I personally love percent talk, and "could" talk, so the other 78% "could" come from where?
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 07:09 AM by NNadir
There are zero posts of these types - designed to produce complacency and wishful thinking - that can exist without the soothsaying word "could."

In 1976 the stupid antiscience mystic Amory Lovins wrote an insufferably stupid article in Foreign Affairs which used the word "could" hundreds of times. Almost without exception, not one of the "could" statements was realistic. All of them were faith based.

Here's a classic representative of the quality of these injurious and virulent appeals to ignorance:

If one assumes that by resolute technical fixes and modest social innovation we can double our end-use efficiency by shortly after 2000, then we could be twice as affiuent as now with today's level of energy use, or as affluent as now while using only half the end-use energy we use today. Or we might be somewhere in between—significantly more aflluent (and equitable) than today but with less enduse energy.


The unreferenced blather referred vaguely to "many experts," all of whom apparently were Amory Lovins taking things out of context.

When exactly, do you believe that it was discovered that horseshit and other shit could be converted to methane, although - given especially the egregrious environmental impact of animal "husbandry" - hardly in a sustainable way.

I submit that this post is designed to overlook the vast literature on the conversion of biomass to fuel, or even to consider the size of a toilet bowl, and the scale of western energy use.

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Fledermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 08:19 PM
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2. You are truly a kook!
Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 08:23 PM by Fledermaus
Only a kook would perpetuate a failed system. A system you apparently know is broken. Not only does biogas replace fossil fuel but fertilizer made from natural gas. Can you name one other energy source that can do the same?

Nitrogen is a key element controlling the species composition, diversity, dynamics, and functioning of many terrestrial, freshwater, and marine ecosystems. Many of the original plant species living in these ecosystems are adapted to, and function optimally in, soils and solutions with low levels of available nitrogen. The growth and dynamics of herbivore populations, and ultimately those of their predators, also are affected by N. Agriculture, combustion of fossil fuels, and other human activities have altered the global cycle of N substantially, generally increasing both the availability and the mobility of N over large regions of Earth. The mobility of N means that while most deliberate applications of N occur locally, their influence spreads regionally and even globally. Moreover, many of the mobile forms of N themselves have environmental consequences. Although most nitrogen inputs serve human needs such as agricultural production, their environmental consequences are serious and long term.

http://www.esajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1890/1051-0761(1997)007%5B0737:HAOTGN%5D2.0.CO%3B2


Closing Nutrient Cycles in Decentralized
Water Treatment Systems in the
Mekong-Delta, Vietnam

http://www.sansed.uni-bonn.de/download/060927_hanoi_presentation.pdf

Nepal: Bio-gas Revolution
Biogas technology is starting a green revolution in Nepal. According to WWF firewood is the preferred energy source in the country as almost 87% of households depend on it. However, biogas is emerging as a viable alternative. A recent report by AFP divulges that Nepal is making money (almost 600,000 US$ in 2007) trading carbon emissions with the help of numerous biogas plants across the country.

For a nation struggling find cheap and sustainable source of energy, biogas certainly brings good news for Nepal.
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/10/15/nepal-bio-gas-revolution/


Biogas Technology
Successful projects in Asia and Africa

http://www.forestresearch.gov.uk/pdf/rrps_AD250309_biogas_technology.pdf/$FILE/rrps_AD250309_biogas_technology.pdf
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